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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>
Cc: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Patrick Roy <roypat@amazon.co.uk>,
	qperret@google.com, Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 4/4] mm: guest_memfd: Add ability for mmap'ing pages
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 11:48:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa3b5be8-2c8a-4fe8-8676-a40a9886c715@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+EHjTxNNinn7EzV_o1X1d0kwhEwrbj_O7H8WgDtEy2CwURZFQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 15.08.24 09:24, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> Hi David,

Hi!

> 
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 14:51, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> -     if (gmem_flags & GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_NO_DIRECT_MAP) {
>>> +     if (!ops->accessible && (gmem_flags & GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_NO_DIRECT_MAP)) {
>>>                r = guest_memfd_folio_private(folio);
>>>                if (r)
>>>                        goto out_err;
>>> @@ -107,6 +109,82 @@ struct folio *guest_memfd_grab_folio(struct file *file, pgoff_t index, u32 flags
>>>    }
>>>    EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(guest_memfd_grab_folio);
>>>
>>> +int guest_memfd_make_inaccessible(struct file *file, struct folio *folio)
>>> +{
>>> +     unsigned long gmem_flags = (unsigned long)file->private_data;
>>> +     unsigned long i;
>>> +     int r;
>>> +
>>> +     unmap_mapping_folio(folio);
>>> +
>>> +     /**
>>> +      * We can't use the refcount. It might be elevated due to
>>> +      * guest/vcpu trying to access same folio as another vcpu
>>> +      * or because userspace is trying to access folio for same reason
>>
>> As discussed, that's insufficient. We really have to drive the refcount
>> to 1 -- the single reference we expect.
>>
>> What is the exact problem you are running into here? Who can just grab a
>> reference and maybe do nasty things with it?
> 
> I was wondering, why do we need to check the refcount? Isn't it enough
> to check for page_mapped() || page_maybe_dma_pinned(), while holding
> the folio lock?

(folio_mapped() + folio_maybe_dma_pinned())

Not everything goes trough FOLL_PIN. vmsplice() is an example, or just 
some very simple read/write through /proc/pid/mem. Further, some 
O_DIRECT implementations still don't use FOLL_PIN.

So if you see an additional folio reference, as soon as you mapped that 
thing to user space, you have to assume that it could be someone 
reading/writing that memory in possibly sane context. (vmsplice() should 
be using FOLL_PIN|FOLL_LONGTERM, but that's a longer discussion)

(noting that also folio_maybe_dma_pinned() can have false positives in 
some cases due to speculative references or *many* references).

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-16  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-05 18:34 [PATCH RFC 0/4] mm: Introduce guest_memfd library Elliot Berman
2024-08-05 18:34 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] mm: Introduce guest_memfd Elliot Berman
2024-08-06 13:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-08 18:39   ` Ackerley Tng
2024-08-05 18:34 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] kvm: Convert to use mm/guest_memfd Elliot Berman
2024-08-05 18:34 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] mm: guest_memfd: Add option to remove guest private memory from direct map Elliot Berman
2024-08-06 14:08   ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]     ` <396fb134-f43e-4263-99a8-cfcef82bfd99@amazon.com>
2024-08-15 19:08       ` Manwaring, Derek
2024-08-06 15:39   ` Patrick Roy
     [not found]     ` <20240806104702482-0700.eberman@hu-eberman-lv.qualcomm.com>
     [not found]       ` <a43ae745-9907-425f-b09d-a49405d6bc2d@amazon.co.uk>
     [not found]         ` <90886a03-ad62-4e98-bc05-63875faa9ccc@amazon.co.uk>
     [not found]           ` <20240807113514068-0700.eberman@hu-eberman-lv.qualcomm.com>
     [not found]             ` <7166d51c-7757-44f2-a6f8-36da3e86bf90@amazon.co.uk>
2024-08-08 22:16               ` Elliot Berman
2024-08-09 15:02                 ` Patrick Roy
2024-08-19 10:09   ` Mike Rapoport
2024-08-20 16:56     ` Elliot Berman
2024-08-21 14:26       ` Mike Rapoport
2024-08-05 18:34 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] mm: guest_memfd: Add ability for mmap'ing pages Elliot Berman
2024-08-06 13:51   ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]     ` <20240806093625007-0700.eberman@hu-eberman-lv.qualcomm.com>
     [not found]       ` <a7c5bfc0-1648-4ae1-ba08-e706596e014b@redhat.com>
2024-08-08 21:41         ` Elliot Berman
2024-08-08 21:55           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-08 22:26             ` Elliot Berman
2024-08-09  7:16               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-15  7:24     ` Fuad Tabba
2024-08-16  9:48       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-08-16 11:19         ` Fuad Tabba
2024-08-16 17:45         ` Ackerley Tng
2024-08-16 18:08           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-16 21:52             ` Ackerley Tng
2024-08-16 22:03               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-16 23:52                 ` Elliot Berman
2024-08-06 15:48   ` Patrick Roy
2024-08-08 18:51   ` Ackerley Tng
2024-08-08 21:42     ` Elliot Berman

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