From: Nai Xia <nai.xia@gmail.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
"hugh@veritas.com" <hugh@veritas.com>,
"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"chris.mason@oracle.com" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:25:24 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab418ea90906032325m302afbb6w6fa68f6b57f53e49@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090528145021.GA5503@localhost>
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 09:45:20PM +0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 02:08:54PM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> >
>> > BTW. I don't know if you are checking for PG_writeback often enough?
>> > You can't remove a PG_writeback page from pagecache. The normal
>> > pattern is lock_page(page); wait_on_page_writeback(page); which I
>>
>> So pages can be in writeback without being locked? I still
>> wasn't able to find such a case (in fact unless I'm misreading
>> the code badly the writeback bit is only used by NFS and a few
>> obscure cases)
>
> Yes the writeback page is typically not locked. Only read IO requires
> to be exclusive. Read IO is in fact page *writer*, while writeback IO
> is page *reader* :-)
Sorry for maybe somewhat a little bit off topic,
I am trying to get a good understanding of PG_writeback & PG_locked ;)
So you are saying PG_writeback & PG_locked are acting like a read/write lock?
I notice wait_on_page_writeback(page) seems always called with page locked --
that is the semantics of a writer waiting to get the lock while it's
acquired by
some reader:The caller(e.g. truncate_inode_pages_range() and
invalidate_inode_pages2_range()) are the writers waiting for
writeback readers (as you clarified ) to finish their job, right ?
So do you think the idea is sane to group the two bits together
to form a real read/write lock, which does not care about the _number_
of readers ?
>
> The writeback bit is _widely_ used. test_set_page_writeback() is
> directly used by NFS/AFS etc. But its main user is in fact
> set_page_writeback(), which is called in 26 places.
>
>> > think would be safest
>>
>> Okay. I'll just add it after the page lock.
>>
>> > (then you never have to bother with the writeback bit again)
>>
>> Until Fengguang does something fancy with it.
>
> Yes I'm going to do it without wait_on_page_writeback().
>
> The reason truncate_inode_pages_range() has to wait on writeback page
> is to ensure data integrity. Otherwise if there comes two events:
> truncate page A at offset X
> populate page B at offset X
> If A and B are all writeback pages, then B can hit disk first and then
> be overwritten by A. Which corrupts the data at offset X from user's POV.
>
> But for hwpoison, there are no such worries. If A is poisoned, we do
> our best to isolate it as well as intercepting its IO. If the interception
> fails, it will trigger another machine check before hitting the disk.
>
> After all, poisoned A means the data at offset X is already corrupted.
> It doesn't matter if there comes another B page.
>
> Thanks,
> Fengguang
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-04 6:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-27 20:12 [PATCH] [0/16] HWPOISON: Intro Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [1/16] HWPOISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:35 ` Larry H.
2009-05-27 21:15 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-28 7:54 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:10 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 16:37 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:34 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:24 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 18:26 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:42 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [2/16] HWPOISON: Export poison flag in /proc/kpageflags Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:37 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [3/16] HWPOISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [4/16] HWPOISON: Add support for poison swap entries v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 8:46 ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-28 9:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:42 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [5/16] HWPOISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for hardware poison signals Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [6/16] HWPOISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 4:15 ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-29 6:28 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [7/16] HWPOISON: Add various poison checks in mm/memory.c Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [8/16] HWPOISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_HWPOISON handling to x86 page fault handler Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [9/16] HWPOISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 7:27 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 8:03 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 8:28 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 9:02 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:26 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [10/16] HWPOISON: Handle hardware poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [11/16] HWPOISON: Handle poisoned pages in set_page_dirty() Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [12/16] HWPOISON: check and isolate corrupted free pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 8:26 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 9:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:08 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:45 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 14:50 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04 6:25 ` Nai Xia [this message]
2009-06-07 16:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 11:06 ` Nai Xia
2009-06-08 12:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 14:46 ` Nai Xia
2009-06-09 6:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 10:48 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 12:17 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 13:36 ` Nai Xia
2009-05-28 16:56 ` Russ Anderson
2009-05-30 6:42 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 11:39 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:19 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 12:05 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:51 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:10 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:34 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:37 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:03 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:20 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:19 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:47 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 14:05 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:30 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:07 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 9:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:11 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 10:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:51 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 11:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 12:15 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:48 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:23 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:54 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 11:50 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 14:05 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 14:40 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 11:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 12:19 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:33 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 10:21 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-01 21:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-01 21:41 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 18:32 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:00 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:47 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:57 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:25 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:24 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:41 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:40 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:06 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:12 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:21 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:08 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 15:17 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:27 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 9:35 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 11:24 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 15:09 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:19 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 6:24 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 15:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-03 16:05 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [14/16] HWPOISON: FOR TESTING: Enable memory failure code unconditionally Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [15/16] HWPOISON: Add madvise() based injector for hardware poisoned pages v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [16/16] HWPOISON: Add simple debugfs interface to inject hwpoison on arbitary PFNs Andi Kleen
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