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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Daniil Tatianin <d-tatianin@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, yc-core@yandex-team.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: add memory.compact_unevictable_allowed cgroup attribute
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 09:25:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abphjNOYaNslTA90@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3db237d0-1ee8-44b7-a356-f3015173f7c2@yandex-team.ru>

On Tue 17-03-26 23:17:28, Daniil Tatianin wrote:
> 
> On 3/17/26 10:17 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 13:00:58 +0300 Daniil Tatianin <d-tatianin@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
> > 
> > > The current global sysctl compact_unevictable_allowed is too coarse.
> > > In environments with mixed workloads, we may want to protect specific
> > > important cgroups from compaction to ensure their stability and
> > > responsiveness, while allowing compaction for others.
> > > 
> > > This patch introduces a per-memcg compact_unevictable_allowed attribute.
> > > This allows granular control over whether unevictable pages in a specific
> > > cgroup can be compacted. The global sysctl still takes precedence if set
> > > to disallow compaction, but this new setting allows opting out specific
> > > cgroups.
> > > 
> > > This also adds a new ISOLATE_UNEVICTABLE_CHECK_MEMCG flag to
> > > isolate_migratepages_block to preserve the old behavior for the
> > > ISOLATE_UNEVICTABLE flag unconditionally used by
> > > isolage_migratepages_range.
> > AI review asked questions:
> > 	https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260317100058.2316997-1-d-tatianin@yandex-team.ru
> 
> > Should this dynamically walk up the ancestor chain during evaluation to
> > ensure it returns false if any ancestor has disallowed compaction?
> 
> I think ultimately it's up to cgroup maintainers whether the code should do
> that, but as far as I understand the whole point of cgroups is that a child
> can override the settings of its parent. Moreover, this property doesn't
> have CFTYPE_NS_DELEGATABLE set, so a child cgroup cannot just toggle it at
> will.

In general any attributes should have proper hieararchical semantic. I
am not sure what that should be in this case. What is a desire in a
child cgroup can become fragmentation pressure to others.

I think it would be really important to explain more thoroughly about
those usecases of mixed workloads. Is the memcg even a suitable level of
abstraction for this tunable? Doesn't this belong to tasks if anything?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-18  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260317100058.2316997-1-d-tatianin@yandex-team.ru>
2026-03-17 19:17 ` [PATCH] mm: add memory.compact_unevictable_allowed cgroup attribute Andrew Morton
     [not found]   ` <3db237d0-1ee8-44b7-a356-f3015173f7c2@yandex-team.ru>
2026-03-18  8:25     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
     [not found]       ` <7ca9876c-f3fa-441c-9a21-ae0ee5523318@yandex-team.ru>
2026-03-18  9:20         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]           ` <73322279-c6f8-4319-827b-938c20c96b9b@yandex-team.ru>
2026-03-18 10:01             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]               ` <b9ceff32-1f8f-454e-84ce-b8788b3a4952@yandex-team.ru>
2026-03-18 11:47                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                   ` <fd7409a3-5f8c-492b-836d-559b001a61dd@yandex-team.ru>
2026-03-18 19:55                     ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-19  8:35                       ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-19  8:24                     ` Michal Hocko

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