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From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
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Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC][RFC PATCH v4 00/27] Private Memory Nodes (w/ Compressed RAM)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2026 10:29:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abwIZd7FNPj5YYXQ@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <049d056b-844b-4480-b90e-bf4c850fc70e@kernel.org>

On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 02:05:53PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 2/23/26 17:08, Gregory Price wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 09:54:55AM -0500, Gregory Price wrote:
> >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 02:07:15PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm concerned about adding more special-casing (similar to what we already
> >>> added for ZONE_DEVICE) all over the place.
> >>>
> >>> Like the whole folio_managed_() stuff in mprotect.c
> >>>
> >>> Having that said, sounds like a reasonable topic to discuss.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Another option would be to add the hook to vma_wants_writenotify()
> >> instead of the page table code - and mask MM_CP_TRY_CHANGE_WRITABLE.
> >>
> > 
> > scratch all this - existing hooks exist for exactly this purpose:
> > 
> > 	can_change_[pte|pmd]_writable()
> > 
> > Surprised I missed this.
> > 
> > I can clean this up to remove it from the page table walks.
> 
> Sorry for the late reply -- sounds like we can handle this cleaner.
> 
> But I am wondering: why is this even required?
> 
> Is it just for "Services that intercept write faults (e.g., for
> promotion tracking) need PTEs to stay read-only"
> 
> But that promotion tracking sounds like some orthogonal work to me. What
> am I missing that this is required in this patch set? (is it just for
> the special compressed RAM bits?)
> 

Yes, this was specific to the compressed ram bits - it allows for a
service to control where/when writes to the device can happen.  In this
case, I've limited writes to just the demotion step. (Although I have
since realized i need to not allow file-backed memory to be demoted).

There may be a better way to do this, but also it may very well be the
case that such a hook is just a bridge too far and isn't wanted. I think
this debate is warranted.

~Gregory


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-19 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-22  8:48 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC][RFC PATCH v4 00/27] Private Memory Nodes (w/ Compressed RAM) Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/27] numa: introduce N_MEMORY_PRIVATE node state Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/27] mm,cpuset: gate allocations from N_MEMORY_PRIVATE behind __GFP_PRIVATE Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/27] mm/page_alloc: add numa_zone_allowed() and wire it up Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/27] mm/page_alloc: Add private node handling to build_zonelists Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/27] mm: introduce folio_is_private_managed() unified predicate Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/27] mm/mlock: skip mlock for managed-memory folios Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/27] mm/madvise: skip madvise " Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/27] mm/ksm: skip KSM " Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/27] mm/khugepaged: skip private node folios when trying to collapse Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/27] mm/swap: add free_folio callback for folio release cleanup Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/27] mm/huge_memory.c: add private node folio split notification callback Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/27] mm/migrate: NP_OPS_MIGRATION - support private node user migration Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/27] mm/mempolicy: NP_OPS_MEMPOLICY - support private node mempolicy Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/27] mm/memory-tiers: NP_OPS_DEMOTION - support private node demotion Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 15/27] mm/mprotect: NP_OPS_PROTECT_WRITE - gate PTE/PMD write-upgrades Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 16/27] mm: NP_OPS_RECLAIM - private node reclaim participation Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 17/27] mm/oom: NP_OPS_OOM_ELIGIBLE - private node OOM participation Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 18/27] mm/memory: NP_OPS_NUMA_BALANCING - private node NUMA balancing Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 19/27] mm/compaction: NP_OPS_COMPACTION - private node compaction support Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 20/27] mm/gup: NP_OPS_LONGTERM_PIN - private node longterm pin support Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 21/27] mm/memory-failure: add memory_failure callback to node_private_ops Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 22/27] mm/memory_hotplug: add add_private_memory_driver_managed() Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 23/27] mm/cram: add compressed ram memory management subsystem Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 24/27] cxl/core: Add cxl_sysram region type Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 25/27] cxl/core: Add private node support to cxl_sysram Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 26/27] cxl: add cxl_mempolicy sample PCI driver Gregory Price
2026-02-22  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 27/27] cxl: add cxl_compression " Gregory Price
2026-02-23 13:07 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC][RFC PATCH v4 00/27] Private Memory Nodes (w/ Compressed RAM) David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-23 14:54   ` Gregory Price
2026-02-23 16:08     ` Gregory Price
2026-03-17 13:05       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-19 14:29         ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-02-24  6:19 ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-24 15:17   ` Gregory Price
2026-02-24 16:54     ` Gregory Price
2026-02-25 22:21     ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-25 23:58       ` Gregory Price
2026-02-26  3:27     ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-26  5:54       ` Gregory Price
2026-02-26 22:49         ` Gregory Price
2026-03-03 20:36       ` Gregory Price
2026-02-25 12:40 ` Alejandro Lucero Palau
2026-02-25 14:43   ` Gregory Price
2026-03-17 13:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-19 15:09   ` Gregory Price

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