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From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>,
	 Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	 Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	 Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	 Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	David Stevens <stevensd@google.com>,
	 Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	 Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	wangzicheng <wangzicheng@honor.com>,
	 "T . J . Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Towards Unified and Extensible Memory Reclaim (reclaim_ext)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2026 08:02:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac05d923-7871-4691-8d26-eff41b3a3db0@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acTaRgusrxfCoKqe@tiehlicka>

On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 08:03:34AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 25-03-26 19:05:47, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Mar 2026 14:06:37 -0700 Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
> >
> > > We should unify both algorithms into a single code path.
> >
> > I'm here to ask the questions which others fear will sound dumb.
>
> Not dumb at all and recently discussed here https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAMgjq7AkYOtUL2HuZjBu5dJw=RTL7W2L1+zVv=SCOyHKYwc3AA@mail.gmail.com/T/#u
>
> > Is it indeed the plan to maintain both implementations?  I thought the
> > long-term ambition was to knock MGLRU into shape and to drop the legacy LRU?
>
> Yes, but MGLRU is not there yet and with development pace last year or
> so we are not much closer than at the time MGLRU has been merged
> unfortunatelly.

I'm quite concerned about maintainership, as it seems the MGLRU maintainers have
not been all that active, and the MGLRU to me at least is currently a black box.

I'm not the only one who's raised this (see [0]).

That'd very much have to be resolved and the community reassured that MGLRU is
_actively_ maintained before we could even contemplate it replacing the
'classic' reclaim approach IMO.

I hope that Kairu, Barry, Zicheng and others who are interested int it resolve
this, however!

Thanks, Lorenzo

[0]:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/aaBsrrmV25FTIkVX@casper.infradead.org/

> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-26  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-25 21:06 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Towards Unified and Extensible Memory Reclaim (reclaim_ext) Shakeel Butt
2026-03-26  0:10 ` T.J. Mercier
2026-03-26  2:05 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-26  7:03   ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-26  8:02     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) [this message]
2026-03-26 12:37       ` Kairui Song
2026-03-26 13:13         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 13:42           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-26 13:45             ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 16:02         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 20:02       ` Axel Rasmussen
2026-03-26 20:30         ` Gregory Price
2026-03-26 20:47           ` Axel Rasmussen
2026-03-26 12:06   ` Kairui Song
2026-03-26 12:31     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 13:17       ` Kairui Song
2026-03-26 13:26         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 13:21   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-26  7:12 ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-26 13:44   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-26 15:24     ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-26 18:21       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-26  7:18 ` wangzicheng
2026-03-26 11:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 15:24   ` Gregory Price
2026-03-26 15:35     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 16:32       ` Gregory Price
2026-03-26 16:40         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 18:49   ` Shakeel Butt

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