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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: kasong@tencent.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	 Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	 David Stevens <stevensd@google.com>,
	Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>,
	 Leno Hou <lenohou@gmail.com>, Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	 Zicheng Wang <wangzicheng@honor.com>,
	Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/12] mm/mglru: simplify and improve dirty writeback handling
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2026 16:37:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac2rO_ovnIQIeYZr@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260329-mglru-reclaim-v2-8-b53a3678513c@tencent.com>

On Sun, Mar 29, 2026 at 03:52:34AM +0800, Kairui Song via B4 Relay wrote:
> From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> 
> The current handling of dirty writeback folios is not working well for
> file page heavy workloads: Dirty folios are protected and move to next
> gen upon isolation of getting throttled or reactivation upon pageout
> (shrink_folio_list).
> 
> This might help to reduce the LRU lock contention slightly, but as a
> result, the ping-pong effect of folios between head and tail of last two
> gens is serious as the shrinker will run into protected dirty writeback
> folios more frequently compared to activation. The dirty flush wakeup
> condition is also much more passive compared to active/inactive LRU.
> Active / inactve LRU wakes the flusher if one batch of folios passed to
> shrink_folio_list is unevictable due to under writeback, but MGLRU
> instead has to check this after the whole reclaim loop is done, and then
> count the isolation protection number compared to the total reclaim
> number.

I was just ranting about this on Baolin's patch and thanks for unifying them.

> 
> And we previously saw OOM problems with it, too, which were fixed but
> still not perfect [1].
> 
> So instead, just drop the special handling for dirty writeback, just
> re-activate it like active / inactive LRU. And also move the dirty flush
> wake up check right after shrink_folio_list. This should improve both
> throttling and performance.

Please divide this patch into two separate ones. One for moving the flusher
waker (& v1 throttling) within evict_folios() and second the above heuristic of
dirty writeback.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-01 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-28 19:52 [PATCH v2 00/12] mm/mglru: improve reclaim loop and dirty folio handling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] mm/mglru: consolidate common code for retrieving evitable size Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] mm/mglru: rename variables related to aging and rotation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-30  1:57   ` Chen Ridong
2026-03-30  7:59   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-01  0:00   ` Barry Song
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] mm/mglru: relocate the LRU scan batch limit to callers Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-30  8:14   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-01  0:20     ` Barry Song
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] mm/mglru: restructure the reclaim loop Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-29  6:47   ` Kairui Song
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] mm/mglru: scan and count the exact number of folios Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-31  8:04   ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-31  9:01     ` Kairui Song
2026-03-31  9:52       ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] mm/mglru: use a smaller batch for reclaim Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-31  8:08   ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] mm/mglru: don't abort scan immediately right after aging Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] mm/mglru: simplify and improve dirty writeback handling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-29  8:21   ` Kairui Song
2026-03-29  8:46     ` Kairui Song
2026-03-31  8:42   ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-31  9:18     ` Kairui Song
2026-04-01  2:52       ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-01  4:57         ` Kairui Song
2026-04-02  0:11       ` Barry Song
2026-04-01 23:37   ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2026-04-02 11:44     ` Kairui Song
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] mm/mglru: remove no longer used reclaim argument for folio protection Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] mm/vmscan: remove sc->file_taken Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-31  8:49   ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] mm/vmscan: remove sc->unqueued_dirty Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-31  8:51   ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-28 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] mm/vmscan: unify writeback reclaim statistic and throttling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-03-31  9:24   ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-31  9:29     ` Kairui Song
2026-03-31  9:36       ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-31  9:40         ` Kairui Song
2026-04-01  5:01   ` Leno Hou
2026-04-02  2:39   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-04-02  2:56     ` Kairui Song
2026-04-02  3:17       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-04-01  5:18 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] mm/mglru: improve reclaim loop and dirty folio handling Leno Hou
2026-04-01  7:36   ` Kairui Song

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