From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Mike Snitzer <msnitzer@kernel.org>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] mm: add atomic flush guard for IOCB_DONTCACHE writeback
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:27:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac3-SU7BElHJVCEL@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260401-dontcache-v1-2-1f5746fab47a@kernel.org>
On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 03:10:59PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> When the PAGECACHE_TAG_WRITEBACK tag clears after a round of writeback
> completes, all concurrent IOCB_DONTCACHE writers see the tag clear
> simultaneously and submit proportional flushes at once — a thundering
> herd that causes p99.9 tail latency spikes.
>
> Add an AS_DONTCACHE_FLUSHING flag to the address_space and use
> test_and_set_bit() to ensure at most one IOCB_DONTCACHE writer
> flushes at a time. Other writers that find the bit set skip their
> flush entirely. The bit is cleared when the flush completes.
This sounds like a bad reimplementation of the single writeback thread
:)
Have you considered stopping to do in-caller writeback for
IOCB_DONTCACHE vs just leaving it to the writeback daeon?
Either by totally disabling the writeback and just leaving the
dropbehind bit, or by queuing up wb_writeback_work instances for
the ranges, or by just increasing the pressure for the writeback
daemon. Note that with all schemes including the one in this patch
we might eventually run into writeback scalability limits, which
will require multiple writeback workers.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-02 5:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-01 19:10 [PATCH 0/4] mm: improve write performance with RWF_DONTCACHE Jeff Layton
2026-04-01 19:10 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: fix IOCB_DONTCACHE write performance with rate-limited writeback Jeff Layton
2026-04-02 4:43 ` Ritesh Harjani
2026-04-02 11:59 ` Jeff Layton
2026-04-02 12:40 ` Ritesh Harjani
2026-04-02 5:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-02 12:28 ` Jeff Layton
2026-04-06 5:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-01 19:10 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: add atomic flush guard for IOCB_DONTCACHE writeback Jeff Layton
2026-04-02 5:27 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-04-02 12:49 ` Jeff Layton
2026-04-06 5:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-06 13:32 ` Jeff Layton
2026-04-01 19:11 ` [PATCH 3/4] testing: add nfsd-io-bench NFS server benchmark suite Jeff Layton
2026-04-01 19:11 ` [PATCH 4/4] testing: add dontcache-bench local filesystem " Jeff Layton
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