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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v9 2/8] netmem: introduce utility APIs to use struct netmem_desc
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 12:45:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac59fba9-4f39-4691-afae-aa7a0b1270af@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250714100551.GA44803@system.software.com>

On 7/14/25 11:05, Byungchul Park wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 10:43:35AM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 7/14/25 00:07, Byungchul Park wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 12:59:34PM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>> On 7/10/25 09:28, Byungchul Park wrote:
>>>> ...> +
>>>>>     static inline struct net_iov *netmem_to_net_iov(netmem_ref netmem)
>>>>>     {
>>>>>         if (netmem_is_net_iov(netmem))
>>>>> @@ -314,6 +340,21 @@ static inline netmem_ref netmem_compound_head(netmem_ref netmem)
>>>>>         return page_to_netmem(compound_head(netmem_to_page(netmem)));
>>>>>     }
>>>>>
>>>>> +#define nmdesc_to_page(nmdesc)               (_Generic((nmdesc),             \
>>>>> +     const struct netmem_desc * :    (const struct page *)(nmdesc),  \
>>>>> +     struct netmem_desc * :          (struct page *)(nmdesc)))
>>>>
>>>> Considering that nmdesc is going to be separated from pages and
>>>> accessed through indirection, and back reference to the page is
>>>> not needed (at least for net/), this helper shouldn't even exist.
>>>> And in fact, you don't really use it ...
>>>>> +static inline struct netmem_desc *page_to_nmdesc(struct page *page)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +     VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(PageTail(page), page);
>>>>> +     return (struct netmem_desc *)page;
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>> +static inline void *nmdesc_address(struct netmem_desc *nmdesc)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +     return page_address(nmdesc_to_page(nmdesc));
>>>>> +}
>>>>
>>>> ... That's the only caller, and nmdesc_address() is not used, so
>>>> just nuke both of them. This helper doesn't even make sense.
>>>>
>>>> Please avoid introducing functions that you don't use as a general
>>>> rule.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry about making you confused.  I should've included another patch
>>> using the helper like the following.
>>
>> Ah, I see. And still, it's not a great function. There should be
>> no way to extract a page or a page address from a nmdesc.
>>
>> For the diff below it's same as with the mt76 patch, it's allocating
>> a page, expects it to be a page, using it as a page, but for no reason
>> keeps it wrapped into netmem. It only adds confusion and overhead.
>> A rule of thumb would be only converting to netmem if the new code
>> would be able to work with a netmem-wrapped net_iovs.
> 
> Thanks.  I'm now working on this job, avoiding your concern.
> 
> By the way, am I supposed to wait for you to complete the work about
> extracting type from page e.g. page pool (or bump) type?

1/8 doesn't depend on it, if you're sending it separately. As for
the rest, it might need to wait for the PGTY change, which is more
likely to be for 6.18

-- 
Pavel Begunkov



  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-14 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-10  8:27 [PATCH net-next v9 0/8] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-07-10  8:28 ` [PATCH net-next v9 1/8] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc mirroring " Byungchul Park
2025-07-12 14:39   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-14  4:23     ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-14 11:30       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-14 11:58         ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-14 19:17         ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-15 10:01           ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-10  8:28 ` [PATCH net-next v9 2/8] netmem: introduce utility APIs to use struct netmem_desc Byungchul Park
2025-07-10 18:11   ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-11  1:02     ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-12 12:16       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-12 12:05     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-12 11:59   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-13 23:07     ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-13 23:39       ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-14  9:43       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-14 10:05         ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-14 11:45           ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-07-14 12:06             ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-10  8:28 ` [PATCH net-next v9 3/8] page_pool: access ->pp_magic through struct netmem_desc in page_pool_page_is_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-07-10 18:19   ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-11  1:14     ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-12 13:58       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-12 14:52         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-12 15:09           ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-13 23:22             ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-17  3:08         ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-22  1:23           ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-28 18:19             ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-14 19:09       ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-15  9:53         ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-10  8:28 ` [PATCH net-next v9 4/8] netmem: use netmem_desc instead of page to access ->pp in __netmem_get_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-07-10 18:25   ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-11  1:17     ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-10  8:28 ` [PATCH net-next v9 5/8] netmem: introduce a netmem API, virt_to_head_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-07-10 18:26   ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-10  8:28 ` [PATCH net-next v9 6/8] mlx4: use netmem descriptor and APIs for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-07-10 18:29   ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-11  1:32     ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-14 19:02       ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-10  8:28 ` [PATCH net-next v9 7/8] netdevsim: " Byungchul Park
2025-07-10 18:26   ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-10  8:28 ` [PATCH net-next v9 8/8] mt76: " Byungchul Park
2025-07-12 14:22   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-14  2:13     ` Byungchul Park
2025-07-10  8:47 ` [PATCH net-next v9 0/8] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-07-10 18:35 ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-11  0:42   ` Byungchul Park

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