public inbox for linux-mm@kvack.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Harry Yoo (Oracle)" <harry@kernel.org>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] slab,rcu: disable KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED for strict grace period
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 17:21:04 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acOa8ErxLgbj0Uer@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ff139493-1964-4285-947d-1b43fe40f8e5@kernel.org>

On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 08:50:07AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 3/24/26 22:35, Jann Horn wrote:
> > Disable CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED in CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD builds
> > so that kernel fuzzers have an easier time finding use-after-free involving
> > kfree_rcu().
> > 
> > The intent behind CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD is that RCU should invoke
> > callbacks and free objects as soon as possible (at a large performance
> > cost) so that kernel fuzzers and such have an easier time detecting
> > use-after-free bugs in objects with RCU lifetime.
> > 
> > CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED is a performance optimization that queues
> > RCU-freed objects in ways that CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD can't
> > expedite; for example, the following testcase doesn't trigger a KASAN splat
> > when CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED is enabled:
> > ```
> > struct foo_struct {
> >   struct rcu_head rcu;
> >   int a;
> > };
> > struct foo_struct *foo = kmalloc(sizeof(*foo),
> >     GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_NOFAIL | __GFP_ZERO);
> > 
> > pr_info("%s: calling kfree_rcu()\n", __func__);
> > kfree_rcu(foo, rcu);
> > msleep(10);
> > pr_info("%s: start UAF access\n", __func__);
> > READ_ONCE(foo->a);
> > pr_info("%s: end UAF access\n", __func__);
> > ```
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
> 
> Hm but with 7.0 we have sheaves everywhere including kmalloc caches, and
> there's a percpu rcu_free sheaf collecting kfree_rcu'd objects.

Right, but only when CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED=y

> Only when
> it's full it's submitted to call_rcu() where the callback rcu_free_sheaf()
> runs slab_free_hook() including kasan hooks etc. If there's nothing filling
> the rcu_free sheaf, the objects can sit there possibly indefinitely.

Right.

> That means CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED now handles only the rare cases where
> kfree_rcu() to the rcu_free sheaf fails (and I still owe it to Ulad to do
> something about this).

Right.

> So to complete the intent of this patch, we should perhaps also skip the
> rcu_free sheaf with RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD? (or with !KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED
> perhaps as it's also a form of batching).

Maybe I'm missing something, but...

by making KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED depend on !RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD,
selecting RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD disables all uses of rcu_free sheaves?

kvfree_call_rcu() implementation on !KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED does not call
kfree_rcu_sheaf().

> But then I wonder if the testcase in the changelog appeared to be fixed with
> this patch on a 7.0-rcX kernel (base-commit: below is rc3+) because by my
> understanding it shouldn't have been. (unless there happened to be enough
> kfree_rcu() activity on that cpu+kmalloc cache combination, so that the
> rcu_free sheaf got submitted withing that msleep(10)).
> 
> > ---
> >  mm/Kconfig | 1 +
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
> > index ebd8ea353687..67a72fe89186 100644
> > --- a/mm/Kconfig
> > +++ b/mm/Kconfig
> > @@ -172,6 +172,7 @@ config SLUB
> >  config KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED
> >  	def_bool y
> >  	depends on !SLUB_TINY && !TINY_RCU
> > +	depends on !RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD
> >  
> >  config SLUB_TINY
> >  	bool "Configure for minimal memory footprint"
> > 
> > ---
> > base-commit: b29fb8829bff243512bb8c8908fd39406f9fd4c3
> > change-id: 20260324-kasan-kfree-rcu-4e7f490237ef
> > 
> > --  
> > Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
> > 
> 
> 

-- 
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-25  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-24 21:35 [PATCH] slab,rcu: disable KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED for strict grace period Jann Horn
2026-03-25  3:00 ` David Rientjes
2026-03-25  3:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-25  5:54 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-03-25  7:50 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-25  8:21   ` Harry Yoo (Oracle) [this message]
2026-03-25  8:34     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-25  8:41       ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=acOa8ErxLgbj0Uer@hyeyoo \
    --to=harry@kernel.org \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=boqun@kernel.org \
    --cc=cl@gentwo.org \
    --cc=dvyukov@google.com \
    --cc=hao.li@linux.dev \
    --cc=jannh@google.com \
    --cc=jiangshanlai@gmail.com \
    --cc=joelagnelf@nvidia.com \
    --cc=josh@joshtriplett.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com \
    --cc=paulmck@kernel.org \
    --cc=qiang.zhang@linux.dev \
    --cc=rcu@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=rientjes@google.com \
    --cc=roman.gushchin@linux.dev \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=urezki@gmail.com \
    --cc=vbabka@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox