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From: "Harry Yoo (Oracle)" <harry@kernel.org>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] slab,rcu: disable KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED for strict grace period
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 17:41:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acOfnpjoj0FIGXKc@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de209b21-a39a-4c8e-8f13-458d095c1325@kernel.org>

On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 09:34:40AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 3/25/26 09:21, Harry Yoo (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 08:50:07AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> >> On 3/24/26 22:35, Jann Horn wrote:
> >> > Disable CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED in CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD builds
> >> > so that kernel fuzzers have an easier time finding use-after-free involving
> >> > kfree_rcu().
> >> > 
> >> > The intent behind CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD is that RCU should invoke
> >> > callbacks and free objects as soon as possible (at a large performance
> >> > cost) so that kernel fuzzers and such have an easier time detecting
> >> > use-after-free bugs in objects with RCU lifetime.
> >> > 
> >> > CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED is a performance optimization that queues
> >> > RCU-freed objects in ways that CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD can't
> >> > expedite; for example, the following testcase doesn't trigger a KASAN splat
> >> > when CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED is enabled:
> >> > ```
> >> > struct foo_struct {
> >> >   struct rcu_head rcu;
> >> >   int a;
> >> > };
> >> > struct foo_struct *foo = kmalloc(sizeof(*foo),
> >> >     GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_NOFAIL | __GFP_ZERO);
> >> > 
> >> > pr_info("%s: calling kfree_rcu()\n", __func__);
> >> > kfree_rcu(foo, rcu);
> >> > msleep(10);
> >> > pr_info("%s: start UAF access\n", __func__);
> >> > READ_ONCE(foo->a);
> >> > pr_info("%s: end UAF access\n", __func__);
> >> > ```
> >> > 
> >> > Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
> >> 
> >> Hm but with 7.0 we have sheaves everywhere including kmalloc caches, and
> >> there's a percpu rcu_free sheaf collecting kfree_rcu'd objects.
> > 
> > Right, but only when CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED=y
> > 
> >> Only when
> >> it's full it's submitted to call_rcu() where the callback rcu_free_sheaf()
> >> runs slab_free_hook() including kasan hooks etc. If there's nothing filling
> >> the rcu_free sheaf, the objects can sit there possibly indefinitely.
> > 
> > Right.
> > 
> >> That means CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED now handles only the rare cases where
> >> kfree_rcu() to the rcu_free sheaf fails (and I still owe it to Ulad to do
> >> something about this).
> > 
> > Right.
> > 
> >> So to complete the intent of this patch, we should perhaps also skip the
> >> rcu_free sheaf with RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD? (or with !KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED
> >> perhaps as it's also a form of batching).
> > 
> > Maybe I'm missing something, but...
> > 
> > by making KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED depend on !RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD,
> > selecting RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD disables all uses of rcu_free sheaves?
> > 
> > kvfree_call_rcu() implementation on !KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED does not call
> > kfree_rcu_sheaf().
> 
> Ah yeah, I missed that there are two kvfree_call_rcu() implementations and
> kfree_rcu_sheaf() is only used in the batched one. Sorry for the noise.

It's confusing indeed. I was trapped by this yesterday, thinking...

"Oh, why doesn't kvfree_rcu_barrier() on !KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED flush
 rcu sheaves? It's broken!"

and then realized that I was confused :)

> Will queue the patch

Thanks!

-- 
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon


      reply	other threads:[~2026-03-25  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-24 21:35 [PATCH] slab,rcu: disable KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED for strict grace period Jann Horn
2026-03-25  3:00 ` David Rientjes
2026-03-25  3:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-25  5:54 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-03-25  7:50 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-25  8:21   ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-03-25  8:34     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-25  8:41       ` Harry Yoo (Oracle) [this message]

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