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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	 Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>,
	 Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	 Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	 Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	 Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	David Stevens <stevensd@google.com>,
	 Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	 Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	wangzicheng <wangzicheng@honor.com>,
	 "T . J . Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Towards Unified and Extensible Memory Reclaim (reclaim_ext)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2026 06:21:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acUxJpJDzA7Bibob@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260325190547.abb7309fb63473b57b7a90a0@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 07:05:47PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2026 14:06:37 -0700 Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
> 
> > We should unify both algorithms into a single code path. 
> 
> I'm here to ask the questions which others fear will sound dumb.
> 
> Is it indeed the plan to maintain both implementations?  

I think in general the plan/wish was to have one implementation but the current
state shows that we are far from where we wish to be.

> I thought the
> long-term ambition was to knock MGLRU into shape and to drop the legacy LRU?

That might be the ambition but I don't think there was an agreement and there
weren't any efforts to do so. Traditional LRU has been battle tested for decades
and thus there were concerns/skepticisms about this ambition as well.

To me, the right way is to take step-by-step approach with clear evaluations and
comparison on unifying or selecting a component from one over the other.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-26 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-25 21:06 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Towards Unified and Extensible Memory Reclaim (reclaim_ext) Shakeel Butt
2026-03-26  0:10 ` T.J. Mercier
2026-03-26  2:05 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-26  7:03   ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-26  8:02     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 12:37       ` Kairui Song
2026-03-26 13:13         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 13:42           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-26 13:45             ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 12:06   ` Kairui Song
2026-03-26 12:31     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 13:17       ` Kairui Song
2026-03-26 13:26         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 13:21   ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2026-03-26  7:12 ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-26 13:44   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-26  7:18 ` wangzicheng
2026-03-26 11:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)

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