* Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] mm: reinstate unconditional writeback start in balance_dirty_pages()
2026-03-26 21:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Joanne Koong
@ 2026-03-27 0:54 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-27 6:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: Andrew Morton @ 2026-03-27 0:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joanne Koong; +Cc: jack, hch, hannes, willy, linux-mm, linux-fsdevel
On Thu, 26 Mar 2026 14:51:27 -0700 Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com> wrote:
> Commit 64dd89ae01f2 ("mm/block/fs: remove laptop_mode") removed this
> unconditional writeback start from balance_dirty_pages():
>
> if (unlikely(!writeback_in_progress(wb)))
> wb_start_background_writeback(wb);
>
> This logic needs to be reinstated to prevent performance regressions for
> strictlimited BDIs and memcg setups. The problem occurs because:
>
> a) For strictlimited BDIs, throttling is calculated using per-wb
> thresholds. The per-wb threshold can be exceeded even when the global
> dirty threshold was not exceeded (nr_dirty < gdtc->bg_thresh)
>
> b) For memcg-based throttling, memcg uses its own dirty count /
> thresholds and can trigger throttling even when the global threshold
> isn't exceeded
>
> Without the unconditional writeback start, IO is throttled as it waits
> for dirty pages to be written back but there is no writeback running.
> This leads to severe stalls. On fuse, buffered write performance
> dropped from 1400 MiB/s to 2000 KiB/s.
>
> Reinstate the unconditional writeback start so that writeback is
> guaranteed to be running whenever IO needs to be throttled.
Thanks, I queued this in mm.git's mm-hotfixes-unstable branch for test
and review. This starts it on the track to mainline before the 7.0
release.
I assume we want to be prompt with this because the fuse regression
sounds pretty horrid.
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2026-03-26 21:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Joanne Koong
2026-03-27 0:54 ` Andrew Morton
@ 2026-03-27 6:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-27 16:04 ` Jan Kara
2026-03-27 16:24 ` Johannes Weiner
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From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2026-03-27 6:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joanne Koong; +Cc: akpm, jack, hch, hannes, willy, linux-mm, linux-fsdevel
Looks good:
Reviewed-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
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* Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] mm: reinstate unconditional writeback start in balance_dirty_pages()
2026-03-26 21:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Joanne Koong
2026-03-27 0:54 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-27 6:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
@ 2026-03-27 16:04 ` Jan Kara
2026-03-27 16:24 ` Johannes Weiner
3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jan Kara @ 2026-03-27 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joanne Koong; +Cc: akpm, jack, hch, hannes, willy, linux-mm, linux-fsdevel
On Thu 26-03-26 14:51:27, Joanne Koong wrote:
> Commit 64dd89ae01f2 ("mm/block/fs: remove laptop_mode") removed this
> unconditional writeback start from balance_dirty_pages():
>
> if (unlikely(!writeback_in_progress(wb)))
> wb_start_background_writeback(wb);
>
> This logic needs to be reinstated to prevent performance regressions for
> strictlimited BDIs and memcg setups. The problem occurs because:
>
> a) For strictlimited BDIs, throttling is calculated using per-wb
> thresholds. The per-wb threshold can be exceeded even when the global
> dirty threshold was not exceeded (nr_dirty < gdtc->bg_thresh)
>
> b) For memcg-based throttling, memcg uses its own dirty count /
> thresholds and can trigger throttling even when the global threshold
> isn't exceeded
>
> Without the unconditional writeback start, IO is throttled as it waits
> for dirty pages to be written back but there is no writeback running.
> This leads to severe stalls. On fuse, buffered write performance
> dropped from 1400 MiB/s to 2000 KiB/s.
>
> Reinstate the unconditional writeback start so that writeback is
> guaranteed to be running whenever IO needs to be throttled.
>
> Fixes: 64dd89ae01f2 ("mm/block/fs: remove laptop_mode")
> Signed-off-by: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
Looks good. Feel free to add:
Reviewed-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Honza
> ---
> mm/page-writeback.c | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/mm/page-writeback.c b/mm/page-writeback.c
> index 601a5e048d12..c1a4b32af1a7 100644
> --- a/mm/page-writeback.c
> +++ b/mm/page-writeback.c
> @@ -1858,6 +1858,27 @@ static int balance_dirty_pages(struct bdi_writeback *wb,
> break;
> }
>
> + /*
> + * Unconditionally start background writeback if it's not
> + * already in progress. We need to do this because the global
> + * dirty threshold check above (nr_dirty > gdtc->bg_thresh)
> + * doesn't account for these cases:
> + *
> + * a) strictlimit BDIs: throttling is calculated using per-wb
> + * thresholds. The per-wb threshold can be exceeded even when
> + * nr_dirty < gdtc->bg_thresh
> + *
> + * b) memcg-based throttling: memcg uses its own dirty count and
> + * thresholds and can trigger throttling even when global
> + * nr_dirty < gdtc->bg_thresh
> + *
> + * Writeback needs to be started else the writer stalls in the
> + * throttle loop waiting for dirty pages to be written back
> + * while no writeback is running.
> + */
> + if (unlikely(!writeback_in_progress(wb)))
> + wb_start_background_writeback(wb);
> +
> mem_cgroup_flush_foreign(wb);
>
> /*
> --
> 2.52.0
>
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR
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2026-03-26 21:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Joanne Koong
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2026-03-27 16:04 ` Jan Kara
@ 2026-03-27 16:24 ` Johannes Weiner
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From: Johannes Weiner @ 2026-03-27 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joanne Koong; +Cc: akpm, jack, hch, willy, linux-mm, linux-fsdevel
On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 02:51:27PM -0700, Joanne Koong wrote:
> Commit 64dd89ae01f2 ("mm/block/fs: remove laptop_mode") removed this
> unconditional writeback start from balance_dirty_pages():
>
> if (unlikely(!writeback_in_progress(wb)))
> wb_start_background_writeback(wb);
>
> This logic needs to be reinstated to prevent performance regressions for
> strictlimited BDIs and memcg setups. The problem occurs because:
>
> a) For strictlimited BDIs, throttling is calculated using per-wb
> thresholds. The per-wb threshold can be exceeded even when the global
> dirty threshold was not exceeded (nr_dirty < gdtc->bg_thresh)
>
> b) For memcg-based throttling, memcg uses its own dirty count /
> thresholds and can trigger throttling even when the global threshold
> isn't exceeded
>
> Without the unconditional writeback start, IO is throttled as it waits
> for dirty pages to be written back but there is no writeback running.
> This leads to severe stalls. On fuse, buffered write performance
> dropped from 1400 MiB/s to 2000 KiB/s.
>
> Reinstate the unconditional writeback start so that writeback is
> guaranteed to be running whenever IO needs to be throttled.
>
> Fixes: 64dd89ae01f2 ("mm/block/fs: remove laptop_mode")
> Signed-off-by: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
Thanks for the fix. This was a combination of the old comment and my
overly hasty read of the existing dirty > bg_thresh &&
!writeback_in_progress() block. The patch looks good to me.
Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
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