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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
	Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/7] mm: switch deferred split shrinker to list_lru
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2026 12:51:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acqqBO0KhxIr3Wbm@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7BA8BHMEwK-QVpH+gDgu9fHEKxs4p1A3CeY9p7G98xhPg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 03:51:07PM +0800, Kairui Song wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 4:05 AM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> > @@ -4651,13 +4651,19 @@ static struct folio *alloc_swap_folio(struct vm_fault *vmf)
> >         while (orders) {
> >                 addr = ALIGN_DOWN(vmf->address, PAGE_SIZE << order);
> >                 folio = vma_alloc_folio(gfp, order, vma, addr);
> > -               if (folio) {
> > -                       if (!mem_cgroup_swapin_charge_folio(folio, vma->vm_mm,
> > -                                                           gfp, entry))
> > -                               return folio;
> > +               if (!folio)
> > +                       goto next;
> > +               if (mem_cgroup_swapin_charge_folio(folio, vma->vm_mm, gfp, entry)) {
> >                         count_mthp_stat(order, MTHP_STAT_SWPIN_FALLBACK_CHARGE);
> >                         folio_put(folio);
> > +                       goto next;
> >                 }
> > +               if (folio_memcg_list_lru_alloc(folio, &deferred_split_lru, gfp)) {
> > +                       folio_put(folio);
> > +                       goto fallback;
> > +               }
> 
> Hi Johannes,
> 
> Haven't checked every detail yet, but one question here, might be
> trivial, will it be better if we fallback to the next order instead of
> fallback to 0 order directly? Suppose this is a 2M allocation and 1M
> fallback is allowed, releasing that folio and fallback to 1M will free
> 1M memory which would be enough for the list lru metadata to be
> allocated.

I would be surprised if that mattered. If we can get a 2M folio but
fail a couple of small slab requests, there is probably such extreme
levels of concurrency and pressure on the freelists that the fault has
a good chance of failing altogether and OOMing.

And if it doesn't matter, then let's consider it from a code clarity
point of view. For folio allocation and charging, we reduce the size
to try again. But the list_lru allocation is always the same size - it
would look weird to just try again on failure. If we do so based on
the logic you lay out above, now it needs a comment too...


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-30 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-18 19:53 [PATCH v3 0/7] mm: switch THP shrinker to list_lru Johannes Weiner
2026-03-18 19:53 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mm: list_lru: lock_list_lru_of_memcg() cannot return NULL if !skip_empty Johannes Weiner
2026-03-18 20:12   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-24 11:30   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-18 19:53 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] mm: list_lru: deduplicate unlock_list_lru() Johannes Weiner
2026-03-24 11:32   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-18 19:53 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] mm: list_lru: move list dead check to lock_list_lru_of_memcg() Johannes Weiner
2026-03-18 20:20   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-24 11:34   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-18 19:53 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] mm: list_lru: deduplicate lock_list_lru() Johannes Weiner
2026-03-18 20:22   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-24 11:36   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-18 19:53 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] mm: list_lru: introduce caller locking for additions and deletions Johannes Weiner
2026-03-18 20:51   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-20 16:18     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-03-24 11:55   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-18 19:53 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] mm: list_lru: introduce folio_memcg_list_lru_alloc() Johannes Weiner
2026-03-18 20:52   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-18 21:01   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-24 12:01   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-30 16:54     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-04-01 14:43       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-18 19:53 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] mm: switch deferred split shrinker to list_lru Johannes Weiner
2026-03-18 20:26   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-18 23:18   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-24 13:48   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-30 16:40     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-04-01 17:33       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27  7:51   ` Kairui Song
2026-03-30 16:51     ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2026-03-30 16:37   ` [PATCH v3 7/7] mm: switch deferred split shrinker to list_lru - [s390] panic in __memcg_list_lru_alloc Mikhail Zaslonko
2026-03-30 19:03     ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-30 20:41     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-03-30 20:56       ` Johannes Weiner
2026-03-30 22:46         ` Vasily Gorbik
2026-03-31  8:04         ` Mikhail Zaslonko
2026-03-18 21:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] mm: switch THP shrinker to list_lru Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-18 22:31   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-03-19  8:47     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-19  8:52       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-19 11:45         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)

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