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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Jianyue Wu <wujianyue000@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, david@kernel.org, zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
	chrisl@kernel.org, kasong@tencent.com, shikemeng@huaweicloud.com,
	nphamcs@gmail.com, baohua@kernel.org, bhe@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: move folio LRU helpers out of swap
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 14:46:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adT8vnS27qKSTvOC@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJxJ_jjFonN8m1YsGh8FjMBbiociLiXzE=tS2+=Or4+PnTPr-g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 07-04-26 20:31:40, Jianyue Wu wrote:
> On 4/7/2026 7:20 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >
> > All that big churn is really worth it? Are there any other reasons than
> > "not so appropriate"?
> >
> > Really if this is not a part of a much bigger plan then NAK.
> 
> Hi Michal,
> 
> The intent here is to keep generic LRU/reclaim helpers separate from
> swap-specific code paths.

OK, but why do we want this and cause a lot of code churn to achiev
that?

> The LRU helpers are shared by both file and anonymous memory, whereas
> swap.c is meant to host logic tied to swap devices and swap entries.
> Placing LRU code there would blur the boundary between general reclaim
> and swap, and make the code harder to follow.

The code is harder to follow than it could be, no questions about that.
But that alone is a rather weak argument to justify a lot of code move
that cause a lot of conflicts.

> Separately, I’ve been looking at routing zram’s swap-slot handling
> through swap-owned hooks (e.g., swap_ops / swapon probing), which would
> involve swapfile.c and swap.h. That’s likely orthogonal to this LRU
> move, but it’s driven by the same goal of clarifying the swap boundary.

Does that work benefits huge by this work?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-07 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-07 11:00 [PATCH] mm: move folio LRU helpers out of swap Jianyue Wu
2026-04-07 11:20 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-07 12:31   ` Jianyue Wu
2026-04-07 12:46     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2026-04-07 11:42 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-07 12:33   ` Jianyue Wu
2026-04-07 13:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-07 14:22 ` Johannes Weiner

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