From: "Harry Yoo (Oracle)" <harry@kernel.org>
To: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>, Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] mm/slab: introduce kfree_rcu_nolock()
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2026 10:08:47 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aelxH--hZkCahPv6@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aejeVK0J_jHSfVhD@milan>
On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 04:42:28PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2026 at 06:10:18PM +0900, Harry Yoo (Oracle) wrote:
> As discussed or noted earlier, having third argument and check the
> entire path with "if (allow_spin)" is not optimal and is not good
> approach. I do not think it this would be a good fit for mainline.
I understand that this pattern is pretty uncommon and adds complexity.
But there is a reason why we're doing this. As Alexei pointed out
earlier, even rare spikes of irq_work hurt performance [1]; that can be
avoided in most cases where the lock is not in use. That's why buddy [2]
and slab [3] accepted this pattern despite the added complexity?
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CAADnVQKk_Bgi0bc-td_3pVpHYXR3CpC3R8rg-NHwdLEDiQSeNg@mail.gmail.com
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250222024427.30294-1-alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250909010007.1660-1-alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com
> I think a better option is to add a separate kvfree_rcu_nmi() helper,
> or similar, and avoid complicating the generic implementation. Otherwise,
> the common path risks becoming harder to maintain.
It's unfortunate that I didn't provide performance data to justify
adding complexity. I can try, but apparently you're not talking
about that.
Rather, you seem to be arguing that you're against this pattern
no matter what the benefits are?
I'm confused.
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-23 1:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-16 9:10 [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] kvfree_rcu() improvements Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-16 9:10 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm/slab: introduce k[v]free_rcu() with struct rcu_ptr Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-22 14:41 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-04-23 1:36 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-16 9:10 ` [PATCH 2/8] fs/dcache: use rcu_ptr instead of rcu_head for external names Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-21 20:21 ` Al Viro
2026-04-22 1:16 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-16 9:10 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm/slab: move kfree_rcu_cpu[_work] definitions Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-16 9:10 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm/slab: introduce kfree_rcu_nolock() Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-21 22:46 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-21 23:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-04-21 23:14 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-22 3:02 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-22 14:42 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-04-23 1:08 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle) [this message]
2026-04-23 1:56 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-23 2:14 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-16 9:10 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm/slab: make kfree_rcu_nolock() work with sheaves Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-16 9:10 ` [PATCH 6/8] mm/slab: wrap rcu sheaf handling with ifdef Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-16 9:10 ` [PATCH 7/8] mm/slab: introduce deferred submission of rcu sheaves Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-21 22:51 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-22 3:11 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-16 9:10 ` [PATCH 8/8] lib/tests/slub_kunit: add a test case for kfree_rcu_nolock() Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-22 14:30 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] kvfree_rcu() improvements Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-04-22 22:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-04-23 1:31 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
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