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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: "Ritesh Harjani (IBM)" <ritesh.list@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	lsf-pc <lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>,
	Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>,
	Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Ojaswin Mujoo <ojaswin@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF BoF Session] Numa-Aware Placement for Page Cache Pages
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2026 14:15:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afNV5wbhsFQJLzxi@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <h5ossmwe.ritesh.list@gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 05:03:37PM +0530, Ritesh Harjani (IBM) wrote:
> Linux already supports memory tiers and there are ongoing discussions around
> promotion of unmapped page cache pages, which lets kernel do the right thing
> for userspace page cache pages on a tiered system.

Well, you know my opinion of that idea ...

> So the question is:
> Do we need a userspace interface for the placement policy of page cache pages on a per file basis?

What do we do if two tasks both "know" the right NUMA placement for the
inode's data, and they disagree?

> 1. Is there a need for an interface that allows userspace to do per-fd page
>    placement and maybe per-fd page migration?

Ideally, no, the kernel should observe the task and get it right.

By the way, you're familiar with how filemap_alloc_folio_noprof()
works today, right?  I forget whether cpuset_do_page_mem_spread
is on or off by default.

> Let me know if people think that this discussion qualifies for a BoF discussion at LSFMM?
> Or do you think it's a bad idea altogether, if that is the case - Then
> please help me understand, why so?
> Before starting to jump on the implemention of any of this - I would
> like to gather feedback on what do others think?

I'm just concerned about what other session i'll have to miss to attend
this instead ;-)


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-30 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-30 11:33 [LSF/MM/BPF BoF Session] Numa-Aware Placement for Page Cache Pages Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2026-04-30 13:15 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2026-04-30 14:43   ` Ritesh Harjani
2026-05-02 14:57   ` Gregory Price
2026-05-02 15:49     ` Gregory Price
2026-05-03 16:18       ` Ritesh Harjani
2026-05-03 23:48         ` Gregory Price
2026-05-02 23:00     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-05-03 14:15       ` Gregory Price
2026-04-30 17:32 ` Gregory Price

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