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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm_access: simplify the security checks
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2026 14:42:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ah1-NmlbYsdH3hJp@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ah1qeNkatqx_N93-@lucifer>

On 06/01, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>
> +cc Liam for mm lifecycle stuff :)
>
> The subject here seems not quite right - you're adding complexity here in that
> now there's a racey fast path.

OK. See my reply to David. If it doesn't look like a simplification -
lets forget this patch ;)

> One behavioural change here though is that down_read_killable() was used
> previously, so such a situation would return -EINTR, but now would instead
> succeed.

I don't really follow... SIGKILL from de_thread() or anything else can
come right after down_read_killable().

> >    All we need for correctness is READ_ONCE() to ensure the compiler
> >    won't reload task->mm. This is not enough for KCSAN, but we already
>
> I'm not sure 'this is not enough for KCSAN' is really reassuring :)

If I understand correctly KCSAN will complain if (say) we race with the
exiting task which does current->mm = NULL without WRITE_ONCE in exit_mm().

> It's useful to put a revision history (ideally with links to prior revisions)
> below the --- line to explain how vN differs from v(N-1).

Yes... I didn't do it this time because V2 doesn't differ from V1, I just removed
the duplicated paragraph from the changelog.

> Overall I'm not really convinced about this patch - this isn't simplifying
> things, it's introducing subtle assumptions and I don't really see the
> benefit?

Thanks for review! lets forget this patch then.

Oleg.



  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-01 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-30 13:56 [PATCH] mm_access: simplify the security checks Oleg Nesterov
2026-05-30 14:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-06-01 11:16   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-30 14:12 ` [PATCH v2] " Oleg Nesterov
2026-06-01 12:04   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 12:31     ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-06-01 12:12   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 12:42     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2026-05-30 15:00 ` [PATCH] " Oleg Nesterov

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