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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, liam@infradead.org, mhocko@suse.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: Process (was Re: [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP) collapse support
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2026 20:31:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ah8Tflgn50DTMvwl@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <07334dc3-79ba-407e-96be-21ceb2eec00a@kernel.org>

On Tue, Jun 02, 2026 at 02:55:30PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 6/2/26 13:31, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >>> learn from obviously) against how mm works in practice.
> >>>
> >>> High review load with many overlapping changes might favour a different approach
> >>> to a subsystem that looks different from that.
> >> Yeah, but as we said, we discussed, it's all rather complicated and we should
> >> move incrementally.
> >> 
> > 
> > Starting to read Documentation/process/maintainer-tip.rst, it's very interesting:
> > 
> > “The tip tree is both a direct development tree and and an aggregation tree for
> > several sub-maintainer trees.”
> > 
> > “In general, development against the head of the tip tree master branch is fine,
> 
> I don't think we'll be able to use this part as mm-next will be only an
> aggreggation tree and not also a direct development tree.
> 
> > but for the subsystems which are maintained separately, have their own git tree
> > and are only aggregated into the tip tree, development should take place against
> > the relevant subsystem tree or branch.”
> 
> So it would have to be this.
> As it might be hard for contributors to pick the right one (as Lorenzo
> pointed out), we might in general suggest they try developing against rc1
> first (which is the common base of all subsystem trees), then either it
> applies to one of the subsystem trees as-is, or it applies as a topic branch
> (which starts also on the rc1 base) with reasonable conflict resolution
> during merge, or we tell them which exising subtree/branch to rebase on.

Unless we carry semi-baked work through merge window *, at rc1 all trees
anyway restart the cycle.

So basing new work on rc1 is very reasonable choice. Once that work is
merged it will be merged to a particular sub-tree. Even patchsets that
touch files across the trees still will be merged to a single sub-tree.
And once a patches is merged it's clear what should be the base for the
work that builds on top of that patchest.

Obviously there would be conflicts when sub-trees are merged into the
integration tree, but that's maintainers responsibility to resolve them
IMHO.

* Supposing we keep the model of early merging for testing [Lorenzo, don't
yell at me ;-)] I think it's reasonable enough to drop everything that's
not going upstream at, say, rc6 and ask contributors to rinse and repeat
after rc1.

> > “Bug fixes which target mainline should always be applicable against the
> > mainline kernel tree. Potential conflicts against changes which are already
> > queued in the tip tree are handled by the maintainers.”
> 
> Ack.

+1

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-02 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-22 14:59 [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 01/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 02/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 03/14] mm/khugepaged: rework max_ptes_* handling with helper functions Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:16   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 13:26   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:24   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:39   ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:04   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 05/14] mm/khugepaged: require collapse_huge_page to enter/exit with the lock dropped Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:07   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 10:26     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:47   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:42   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31  9:39   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:00     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  3:28       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01  6:54         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  7:49           ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01  8:15             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  8:44               ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:09                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  9:08           ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:23             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 10:47               ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 11:13                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:00                   ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 15:05                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 16:07                       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-02 15:30                 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 16:34                   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 07/14] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:51   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 08/14] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:09   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:13   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 09/14] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 10/14] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:18   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:35     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 14:40       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-25 14:15   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-25 19:10     ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-26  6:57       ` Wei Yang
2026-05-26 12:07         ` Nico Pache
2026-05-28  8:42           ` Wei Yang
2026-05-28 17:11             ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31  7:18   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31  8:48     ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 12:01       ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 12:06         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 10:58     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 15:44       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01  8:11   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 12:40     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 13:15       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 17:23         ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 17:26           ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 12/14] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-05-31  7:31   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:02     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  1:53       ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 13/14] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 14/14] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:58   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 12:00     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-26 14:45   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:07 ` [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:13   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-22 16:11     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:13       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26  8:33         ` Process (was Re: [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP) " Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26 19:09           ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-26 20:42           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-31 19:49             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:41               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 15:45                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 16:16                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 11:20                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 11:31                       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 12:47                         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 12:55                         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02 13:01                           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 17:31                           ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2026-06-02 12:40                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 12:49                         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 12:47                       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02 12:58                         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 13:08                           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02 13:16                             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03  1:48                               ` SeongJae Park
2026-06-01 15:37             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 15:43               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:47                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 16:00                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:16   ` [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP " Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:08     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 16:19       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:31         ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 17:12           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26  8:14             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-01 15:58   ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-06-01 17:05     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 17:08     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02  1:53       ` Lance Yang

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