From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Askar Safin <safinaskar@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
patches@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2026 17:41:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiLuRDJcQMYGuQsc@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aiGkrQnMeyPmEvRB@1wt.eu>
On Thu, Jun 04, 2026 at 06:15:41PM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 04, 2026 at 08:58:33AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 at 08:53, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It looks like you're actually doing exactly the thing that I thought
> > > > was crazy and wouldn't even work reliably: you change the
> > > > common_response[] contents dynamically *after* the vmsplice, and
> > > > depend on the fact that changing it in user space changes the buffer
> > > > in the pipe too.
> > >
> > > No no, it's definitely not doing that (or it's a bug, but it's not
> > > supposed to happen). I'm perfectly aware that one must definitely not
> > > do that, and it's a guarantee the user of vmsplice() must provide.
> >
> > Whew, good.
> >
> > In that case, can you just try the vmsplice patch series (Christian
> > already found a bug, but I don't think it will necessarily matter in
> > practice - famous last words) and that test patch of mine, and see if
> > it all (a) works for you and (b) if you have any numbers for
> > performance that would be *great*.
>
> Yes I wanted to do that and noted it on my todo list yesterday when
> noticing the ongoing discussion. Just been super busy with yesterday's
> by-yearly release ;-) But at least I wanted to share quick feedback in
> this thread about existing uses.
OK so I could run the test this afternoon, with:
- ddd664bbff63 Merge tag 'net-7.1-rc7' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net
(v7.1-rc6-178)
- the same with Christian's vfs-7.2.vmsplice branch merged into it
( 8d86fcfc2857 include/linux/splice.h: trivial fix: declerations -> declarations)
Both show 71-72 Gbps of TLS traffic per core on my test utility (I
stopped at 3 cores since having only 2x100G at the moment), so for
this use case I'm not impacted by the change. I noted that I will
have to reconsider other options for the cache (send(MSG_ZEROCOPY)
probably) but in my case since the code doesn't exist yet it's not
per-se a userland breakage, but a change of plans. I just hope I'll
find my way through the alternate solution.
FWIW for Christian's branch:
Tested-by: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-05 15:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-31 1:01 [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-05-31 1:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] tee: fs/splice.c: remove unused parameter "flags" from "link_pipe" Askar Safin
2026-05-31 1:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-06-03 20:56 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-03 21:17 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-04 9:06 ` David Laight
2026-06-04 14:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 17:38 ` David Laight
2026-06-04 19:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 21:32 ` David Laight
2026-06-04 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 9:32 ` Florian Weimer
2026-06-05 15:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:30 ` Florian Weimer
2026-06-05 17:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 1:57 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-06-05 8:23 ` David Laight
2026-06-04 23:25 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-05 11:02 ` Mark Brown
2026-06-05 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:26 ` Mark Brown
2026-06-05 17:21 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-31 1:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] splice: remove PIPE_BUF_FLAG_GIFT Askar Safin
2026-05-31 8:54 ` [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Pedro Falcato
2026-05-31 19:01 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-31 21:21 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-01 16:16 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-02 21:12 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-02 21:37 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-02 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-02 22:41 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-02 23:07 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-02 22:54 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03 0:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 1:08 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03 3:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 6:45 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-03 13:40 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-03 15:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 18:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 19:22 ` David Howells
2026-06-03 19:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 21:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 21:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 22:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 22:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 15:15 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-05 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 22:43 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03 22:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 23:00 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-04 0:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 18:12 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-05 9:43 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-05 12:19 ` David Laight
2026-06-05 15:20 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-03 11:43 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-03 18:14 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-01 3:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-01 15:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-01 15:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-01 16:17 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-01 16:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 19:24 ` David Howells
2026-06-01 16:23 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-01 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-01 17:33 ` Al Viro
2026-06-01 20:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-06-02 0:28 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-02 8:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 18:44 ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-03 7:50 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-04 6:32 ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 14:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 15:53 ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 16:15 ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-05 15:41 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2026-06-04 15:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-04 16:09 ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 17:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 9:57 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-06-04 0:45 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-04 1:52 ` Linus Torvalds
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