From: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
To: Shivank Garg <shivankg@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/3] KVM: guest_memfd: folio migration for non-confidential VMs
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 12:04:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ai_aczmeH2IA6JaB@raptor> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ai_XK__RTXMCEcCG@raptor>
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 11:43:14AM +0100, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 01:05:07PM +0000, Shivank Garg wrote:
> > guest_memfd folios are currently marked unmovable, so the kernel cannot
> > perform NUMA-balancing, memory compaction, etc. This is unavoidable for
> > confidential VMs (SEV-SNP, TDX), since memory is encrypted and copying it
> > needs firmware assistance. However, for non-confidential VMs (like
> > Firecracker), we can migrate the folios.
> >
> > This series enables folio migration for non-confidential guest_memfd and
> > also lays the groundwork for migrating confidential guest_memfd later.
> > Once firmware-assisted copying support is available, those VMs can be
> > made movable, the confidential folio content can be copied separately,
> > and the destination folio marked with FOLIO_CONTENT_COPIED so
> > __migrate_folio() skips the host-side folio_mc_copy().
>
> I always thought that one of the nice things about using guest_memfd as a
> memory backend, as opposed to host userspace mappings, is that the host
> cannot unmap VM memory because of KSM, automatic NUMA balancing, hugepage
> collapse, compaction, etc, acting on the host userspace mapping of the
> VM memory, and outside of the VMM's or KVM's control.
>
> I think it would be useful to preserve this behaviour, even in the absence
> of confidential VMs (i.e, guest_memfd file descriptor created with
> GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_MMAP).
Just to be clear, I was thinking that it might be useful for both
behaviours to exist (migratable and non-migratable) for non-confidential
VMs, and allow KVM or userspace to decide which they prefer for a
guest_memfd.
Thanks,
Alex
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-15 11:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-11 13:05 [PATCH RFC 0/3] KVM: guest_memfd: folio migration for non-confidential VMs Shivank Garg
2026-06-11 13:05 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] mm: split AS_UNMOVABLE back out of AS_INACCESSIBLE Shivank Garg
2026-06-11 13:05 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] KVM: guest_memfd: support folio migration for non-confidential VMs Shivank Garg
2026-06-11 13:05 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] KVM: selftests: exercise guest_memfd folio migration Shivank Garg
2026-06-15 10:43 ` [PATCH RFC 0/3] KVM: guest_memfd: folio migration for non-confidential VMs Alexandru Elisei
2026-06-15 11:04 ` Alexandru Elisei [this message]
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