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From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
Cc: kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
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	Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>, William Tu <witu@nvidia.com>,
	Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 08/12] PCI: liveupdate: Inherit ACS flags in incoming preserved devices
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 10:49:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiaeOVomxQZhoM3K@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aiXWmR-ettxin4LC@google.com>

On Sun, Jun 07, 2026 at 08:37:45PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 08:24:06PM +0000, David Matlack wrote:
> > Inherit Access Control Services (ACS) flags on all incoming preserved
> > devices (endpoints and upstream bridges) during a Live Update.
> > 
> > Inheriting ACS flags avoids changing routing rules while memory
> > transactions are in flight from preserved devices. This is also strictly
> > necessary to ensure that IOMMU group assignments do not change across
> > a Live Update for preserved devices, as changing ACS configurations can
> > split or merge IOMMU groups.
> > 
> > Cache the inherited ACS controls established by the previous kernel in
> > struct pci_dev so that ACS controls do not change after a reset
> > (pci_restore_state() calls pci_enable_acs()).
> > 
> > To simplify ACS inheritance, reject preserving any devices that require
> > quirks to enable ACS as those quirks would also have to take Live Update
> > into account.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/pci/liveupdate.c       | 68 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  drivers/pci/liveupdate.h       | 11 ++++++
> >  drivers/pci/pci.c              |  5 +++
> >  drivers/pci/pci.h              |  5 +++
> >  drivers/pci/quirks.c           |  7 ++++
> >  include/linux/pci_liveupdate.h |  6 +++
> >  6 files changed, 102 insertions(+)
> > 
> 
> [...]
> 
> >  
> > +void pci_liveupdate_init_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
> > +{
> > +	guard(rwsem_read)(&pci_liveupdate.rwsem);
> > +
> > +	if (!dev->acs_cap || !dev->liveupdate.incoming)
> > +		return;
> > +
> > +	pci_read_config_word(dev, dev->acs_cap + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &dev->liveupdate.acs_ctrl);
> 
> I might be thinking out loud here, but as an attacker, this motivates me
> to somehow hack the EP FW to mis-report the PCI_ACS_CTRL register across
> a liveupdate to fool the incoming kernel. If the FW feeds a 0, it silently
> strips ACS protections.

Minor note here: I used "0" as an example value, I'm aware that'll
effectively disable ACS and kernel will enforce more security.

My point was that a FW exploit can meddle with the bitfields of the
ACS_CTRL to spoof and mis-report the ACS flags.

Additionally, we might give rise to use-cases that start depending on
this, for e.g. if someone wants to change ACS policies in the
new kernel, the FW may silently update these flags across a kexec.

> 
> Should we also serialize ACS state in ser somehow to ensure we aren't 
> fooled by something like this?
> 

Thanks,
Praan


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-08 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-22 20:23 [PATCH v6 00/12] PCI: liveupdate: PCI core support for Live Update David Matlack
2026-05-22 20:23 ` [PATCH v6 01/12] PCI: liveupdate: Set up FLB handler for the PCI core David Matlack
2026-06-05  5:41   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 02/12] PCI: liveupdate: Track outgoing preserved PCI devices David Matlack
2026-06-05  6:11   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 03/12] PCI: liveupdate: Track incoming " David Matlack
2026-06-06 10:08   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 04/12] PCI: liveupdate: Document driver binding responsibilities David Matlack
2026-05-25 15:35   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-06 10:20   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 05/12] PCI: liveupdate: Keep bus numbers constant during Live Update David Matlack
2026-06-06 11:10   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 06/12] PCI: liveupdate: Auto-preserve upstream bridges across " David Matlack
2026-06-06 22:15   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 07/12] PCI: Refactor matching logic for pci_dev_acs_ops David Matlack
2026-06-07 19:01   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 08/12] PCI: liveupdate: Inherit ACS flags in incoming preserved devices David Matlack
2026-06-07 20:37   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-08 10:49     ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 09/12] PCI: liveupdate: Inherit ARI Forwarding Enable on preserved bridges David Matlack
2026-06-08 11:33   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 10/12] PCI: liveupdate: Freeze preservation status during shutdown David Matlack
2026-06-08 11:47   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 11/12] PCI: liveupdate: Do not disable bus mastering on preserved devices during kexec David Matlack
2026-06-08 11:58   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 12/12] Documentation: PCI: Add documentation for Live Update David Matlack
2026-06-08 12:01   ` Pranjal Shrivastava

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