From: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Frederick Mayle <fmayle@google.com>,
Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-hotfixses] Revert "mm: limit filemap_fault readahead to VMA boundaries"
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:18:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajV49Fyogfa6aIjy@pedro-suse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajV0TbwEyaKMzoa6@lucifer>
On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 06:07:30PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> +cc Suren, Pedro, David - I messed up the cc on this patch.
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 05:52:38PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 09:37:11AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 12:28:51 +0100 Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This reverts commit 7b32f64bc512b40b268776c5ac4d354b325b3197.
> > > >
> > > > This patch caused a significant performance regression, so revert it, and
> > > > we can determine whether the approach is sensible or not moving forwards,
> > > > and if so how to avoid this.
> > > >
> > > > There was a merge conflict with commit de97ae6222c1 ("mm/readahead: no
> > > > PG_readahead on EOF"), care was taken to ensure that the revert retained the
> > > > behaviour of this patch and cleanly reverts commit 7b32f64bc512 ("mm: limit
> > > > filemap_fault readahead to VMA boundaries") only.
> > >
> > > I'm a little conflicted here.
> > >
> > > 7b32f64bc512 avoided readahead of "file pages outside the mapped
> > > region", which is clearly desirable (arguably a bug fix?) and we care
>
> I wouldn't say it's a bug fix? The kernel has always done this with no reported
> bugs.
>
> > > about performance of executable mappings. Whereas it isn't clear that
> > > we care about whatever the heck that test case was doing.
> > >
> > > IOW, the revert might make the kernel worse, overall.
> > >
> > > If someone plans to get down and analyse that test case then come up
> > > with a new version of 7b32f64bc512 then OK. Is there such a person?
> > >
> > > I'll park the revert in mm-unstable for now, but would prefer not to
> > > rush it in until we better understand what's going on with that test
> > > case and what can be done to address it.
>
> As Willy points out [0], we've identified that it's a real usecase that we're
> regressing.
>
> There's likely others too in the real world.
Yeah, the mmap usage on SVT-AV1 is a little suspicious, but I guess the
pattern may come up time and time again for people doing chunked mmap
reads. I think we need to take a closer look at this change.
>
> This approach has also not been without debate in the past (see [1]), I think
> this patch slipped under the radar on that front a bit.
Yeah, sadly it seems like the patch _may_ need a rather substantial rework :|
So I would err on the side of caution for now and revert it as well.
--
Pedro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-19 17:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-19 11:28 [PATCH mm-hotfixses] Revert "mm: limit filemap_fault readahead to VMA boundaries" Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-19 11:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-19 11:58 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-19 15:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-19 16:37 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-19 16:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-19 17:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-19 17:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-19 17:18 ` Pedro Falcato [this message]
2026-06-19 17:43 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-19 17:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-19 17:52 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-19 19:26 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-19 19:33 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
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