From: Youngjun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>
Cc: Youngjun Park <her0gyugyu@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/6] mm/swap, memcg: Introduce swap tiers for cgroup based swap control
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2026 10:29:52 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajnhkK/dT4MsqyAR@yjaykim-PowerEdge-T330> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO9r8zOy99szvC4W0+SUv4b3P2UxppJuBeZDV3HZzQuHUc1P1g@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at 02:23:40PM -0700, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2026 at 11:16 AM Youngjun Park <her0gyugyu@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is the v9 series of the swap tier patchset.
> >
> > The main change in this version is the addition of selftests for the tier
> > interfaces, requested by Nhat; see the changelog below for the other changes.
> > I designed the test cases and wrote the selftests with some AI assistance.
> >
> > For context, the bulk of the series is unchanged since v8, with great thanks
> > to Shakeel Butt and Yosry for the reviews and discussions [1] that shaped it.
> > The main change in v8 was the interface change to use memory.swap.tiers.max
> > with '0' (disable) and 'max' (enable) values. This mechanism was suggested
> > by Shakeel and Yosry.
> >
> > This change allows for future extensions to control swap between tiers and
> > aligns better with existing memcg interfaces. It is confined to patch #3's
> > user-facing interface; internally, patch #3 still uses the existing mask
> > processing method, which is implementation-efficient.
> >
> > We also discussed tier extensions. Thanks to Yosry, Nhat and Shakeel for their
> > valuable feedback.
> >
> > Here is a brief summary of our tentative conclusions. Please correct me
> > if anything is misrepresented (details in references):
> >
> > * Zswap tiering [2]:
> > Tiering applies only to the vswap + zswap combo. Zswap itself will
> > not be tiered, as the current architecture requires a physical device
> > for zswap allocation.
>
> I thought we agreed that zswap should be a tier, so that proactive
> zswap writeback can be implemented as proactive swap demotion?
>
> The only restriction we talked about is that zswap cannot be the only
> allowed tier as long as vswap isn't supported. We can lift the
> restriction when vswap support is added.
Okay, I misunderstood that part. Thanks for the clarification.
To summarize our agreement.
zswap can be the first tier regardless of vswap support.
- With vswap: zswap can be the only allowed tier, as it can operate
independently.
- Without vswap: zswap cannot be the only allowed tier, as it cannot
operate without a physical backing device.
I will proceed with this understanding.
Youngjun Park
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-23 1:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-20 18:16 [PATCH v9 0/6] mm/swap, memcg: Introduce swap tiers for cgroup based swap control Youngjun Park
2026-06-20 18:16 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] mm: swap: introduce swap tier infrastructure Youngjun Park
2026-06-20 18:16 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] mm: swap: associate swap devices with tiers Youngjun Park
2026-06-20 18:16 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] mm: memcontrol: add interface for swap tier selection Youngjun Park
2026-06-22 5:03 ` Youngjun Park
2026-06-22 21:21 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-22 22:10 ` Joshua Hahn
2026-06-22 22:26 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-22 23:19 ` Joshua Hahn
2026-06-22 23:46 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-23 0:40 ` Joshua Hahn
2026-06-23 18:10 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-23 18:56 ` Joshua Hahn
2026-06-23 20:06 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-23 20:20 ` Joshua Hahn
2026-06-20 18:16 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] mm: swap: filter swap allocation by memcg tier mask Youngjun Park
2026-06-20 18:16 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] selftests/mm: add a swap tier configuration test Youngjun Park
2026-06-20 18:16 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] selftests/cgroup: add a swap tier routing test Youngjun Park
2026-06-22 21:23 ` [PATCH v9 0/6] mm/swap, memcg: Introduce swap tiers for cgroup based swap control Yosry Ahmed
2026-06-23 1:29 ` Youngjun Park [this message]
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