From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com, rppt@kernel.org, vbabka@kernel.org,
mgorman@techsingularity.net, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/vmstat: fold stranded per-cpu node stats when a node comes online
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2026 20:31:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <akBrVoku9tKstb9n@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260627161007.81e4533ce561c2951a69f927@linux-foundation.org>
On Sat, Jun 27, 2026 at 04:10:07PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > The existing code zeroes the per-cpu counters and causes a permanent
> > skew. Fold the stranded deltas instead, before the node rejoins the
> > online set. The node is not online yet and the hotplug lock is held,
> > so the remote access to per-cpu values is safe.
>
> Oh. Shouldn't we be doing this during offlining?
>
I tried this first. I was unable to convince myself there was a
safe way to accomplish this.
1) sashiko pointed out we can't schedule_on_each_cpu while holding
the hotplug lock because we'll re-take cpus_read_lock and cause
a deadlock condition with cpu-hotplug.
2) I'm not sure we can do it after the hotplug lock as been dropped,
at least not safely. At the very least another hot-plug re-adding
the node could start. That just seemed like a bad path.
3) foreign cpu access to the per-cpu values are not atomic with
respect to in-flight folds on the target cpu. this_cpu_xchg
and this_cpu_add are (i believe) only atomic wrt the cpu itself
(can't be interrupted mid-exchange).
doing it before node_offline() has problems (in-flight folds),
doing it after node_offline() still *technically* carries the same
in-flight fold risk - just narrower (fold has to have started already).
I couldn't convince myself there wasn't still a race, so here we are.
> > + for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {
>
> That's a lot of CPUs
>
Unfortunately - cpus may have gone offline while the node was offline,
so we legitimately have to visit every *possible* cpu :[
> > + struct per_cpu_nodestat *p = per_cpu_ptr(pgdat->per_cpu_nodestats, cpu);
> >
> > - p = per_cpu_ptr(pgdat->per_cpu_nodestats, cpu);
> > + for (i = 0; i < NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS; i++)
>
> and that's a lot of items.
I am aware :[. I suppose we could vectorize the collection here on some
archs, but I try to avoid being clever where I can.
>
> I guess the overall loop count won't be large enough to cause issues,
> but it's large!
>
> Perhaps there's some simple test we can do on the per_cpu_nodestat to
> avoid the inner loop? Perhaps might need to add a field for this?
Hadn't considered this, but maybe. Will take a look.
>
> btw, "for(int i..." is allowed nowadays. It'll make this code nicer, IMO.
>
aye aye o7
> And... Sashiko seems to have found a pre-existing issue:
> https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260627202243.758289-1-gourry@gourry.net
>
Will take a look, thanks!
~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-28 0:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-27 20:22 [PATCH v2] mm/vmstat: fold stranded per-cpu node stats when a node comes online Gregory Price
2026-06-27 23:10 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-28 0:31 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-06-30 20:57 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-30 22:55 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-30 23:27 ` Gregory Price
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