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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	David Carlier <devnexen@gmail.com>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	syzbot+fd95a72470f5a44e464c@syzkaller.appspotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm: fix UAF caused by race between ptdump and vmap pgtable freeing
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2026 17:08:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alTxUwrkzEx-FEOP@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alTOCtzQh9RMfWbc@willie-the-truck>

On Mon, Jul 13, 2026 at 12:37:46PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2026 at 09:46:46AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 12, 2026 at 12:50:08PM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
> > > Will Deacon had pushed back on a similar approach:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250530123527.GA30463@willie-the-truck/
> > >
> > > Although now when I read back that thread, it feels more so like my
> > > incompetency to convince :) because:
> > 
> > No haha not so, I think more like this stuff is fiddly.
> 
> Yup, not disputing that this is hard to get right.
> 
> Conceptually, adding locking purely to deal with a vanishingly rare,
> debug reader does turn my head but I'm _far_ less concerned about it if
> it's done in the core code, as is the case here. x86 needs it and we're
> recently running into related locking issues with the set_memory_*()
> APIs if we want to collapse the page-table on arm64 [1]. If the overhead
> is flagged as an issue, we can see if it's worth generalising the static
> key trick that the second patch reverts but I definitely wouldn't start
> from that position.

I'd say it's worth generalizing the set_memory APIs ;-)

Since it's de-facto machinery for manipulation of the kernel page tables it
makes sense to have a common code for page table walks with hooks to
architectures for checking/setting/clearing protection bits.

Coincidentally, I'm working on a POC that lifts x86's CPA into mm/ with
the intention to later use it on other architectures.

> Will
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/799181c3-a1a1-4de7-bc6a-576d3282efb0@arm.com/

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-13 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-10 10:49 [PATCH 0/2] mm: fix UAF caused by race between ptdump and vmap pgtable freeing Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-10 10:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/vmalloc: acquire init_mm read lock on huge vmap promotion Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-10 12:57   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-10 13:24     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-11 10:23   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-12  7:43   ` Dev Jain
2026-07-12  8:01     ` Greg KH
2026-07-12  9:27       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-12 11:15       ` Dev Jain
2026-07-12  8:22     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-12 11:16       ` Dev Jain
2026-07-10 10:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] Revert "arm64: Enable vmalloc-huge with ptdump" Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-11 10:15   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-12  8:27     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-12  7:46   ` Dev Jain
2026-07-12  8:28     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-10 11:44 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: fix UAF caused by race between ptdump and vmap pgtable freeing David CARLIER
2026-07-10 11:57   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-12  7:20 ` Dev Jain
2026-07-12  8:46   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-12 11:34     ` Dev Jain
2026-07-13 11:37     ` Will Deacon
2026-07-13 14:08       ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2026-07-13 16:22         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)

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