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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Brendan Jackman <brendan.jackman@linux.dev>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/secretmem: disable under HIGHMEM
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 14:33:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aldv8U-lzCn0SCBL@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DJZ3TQV3GPDO.6AN321FGTTX@linux.dev>

On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 11:22:33AM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> On Mon Jul 6, 2026 at 8:42 AM UTC, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> > On 7/5/26 13:34, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jul 05, 2026 at 10:46:19AM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> >>> On Sun Jul 5, 2026 at 2:26 AM UTC, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Well OK, but the secretmem code is still wrong.  The patch protects
> >>>> people from hitting the bug but leaves the bug in place.  Surely it would be
> >>>> better to fix the bug?
> >>>
> >>> I don't think the code is wrong if highmem is disabled. Certainly
> >>> there is an implicit coupling between the .c file and the Kconfig file,
> >>> but we could always add a BUILD_BUG_ON(IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SECRETMEM)) to
> >>> the relevant bit of code to make it explicit.
> >>>
> >>>> Is that as simple as adding the folio_test_highmem() test?  
> >>>
> >>> This would fix the WARN+SIGBUS but I don't think it resolves the fact
> >>> that this configuration is completely untested - there are likely other
> >>> functional bugs? But more importantly, I am not sure if secretmem
> >>> actually does its security job if kmap_local_page() isn't a NOP. I
> >>> think shipping a "security feature" that doesn't do what it says would
> >>> be really terrible. (It might work totally fine, I dunno, but it would
> >>> require some research and deep thinking that I don't really want to do
> >>> for a configuration with no users).
> >>>
> >>>> Or switching to GFP_KERNEL?  
> >>>
> >>> ... Oh, that's a nice idea though :)
> >> 
> >> GFP_USER if anything :)
> >
> > Right.
> >
> >> 
> >> But still with kmap() and friends not being an NOP the promise "kernel does
> >> not map this memory" does not hold.
> >> 
> >> I think that keeping SECRETMEM and HIGHMEM mutually exclusive is
> >> conceptually correct.
> >
> > We could even limit it to 64BIT ;)
> 
> I fear this in limbo, we have quite a wide range of opinions from "fix
> the broken configuration" all the way to "disable secretmem completely on
> 32bit". I'm not passionately committed to any one answer but I do think
> we need to pick something.
> 
> Mike's position seems to be roughly "in the middle" of the spectrum, and

Right :)
Supporting 32-bit without HIGHMEM is easy, so I don't think we should limit
it to 64BIT at this point.

> (conveniently for me) happens to align with what I did in the [PATCH].
> So... could we go ahead with this?


-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-15 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-03 14:48 [PATCH] mm/secretmem: disable under HIGHMEM Brendan Jackman
2026-07-04  6:42 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-05  2:26 ` Andrew Morton
2026-07-05 10:46   ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-05 11:34     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-06  8:42       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-15 11:22         ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-15 11:33           ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2026-07-15 12:31             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-15 13:44               ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-15 13:49                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-15 14:58                   ` Mike Rapoport

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