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From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Rob Mueller <robm@fastmail.fm>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: Default zone_reclaim_mode = 1 on NUMA kernel is bad forfile/email/web servers
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:07:42 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010040805500.2502@router.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101004211112.E8B1.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Mon, 4 Oct 2010, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:

> > The problem with zone reclaim mainly is created for large apps whose
> > working set is larger than the local node. The special settings are only
> > needing for those applications.
>
> In theory, yes. but please talk with userland developers. They always say
> "Our software work fine on *BSD, Solaris, Mac, etc etc. that's definitely
> linux problem". /me have no way to persuade them ;-)

Do those support NUMA? I would think not. You would have to switch on
interleave at the BIOS level (getting a hardware hack in place to get
rid of the NUMA effects) to make these OSes run right.

> This is one of option. but we don't need to create x86 arch specific
> RECLAIM_DISTANCE. Because practical high-end numa machine are either
> ia64(SGI, Fujitsu) or Power(IBM) and both platform already have arch
> specific definition. then changing RECLAIM_DISTANCE doesn't make any
> side effect on such platform. and if possible, x86 shouldn't have
> arch specific definition because almost minor arch don't have a lot of
> tester and its quality often depend on testing on x86.
>
> attached a patch below.

Looks good.

Acked-by: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-04 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1284349152.15254.1394658481@webmail.messagingengine.com>
2010-09-16 10:01 ` Default zone_reclaim_mode = 1 on NUMA kernel is bad for file/email/web servers KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-16 17:06   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-17  0:50     ` Robert Mueller
2010-09-17  6:01       ` Shaohua Li
2010-09-17  7:32         ` Robert Mueller
2010-09-17 13:56           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-17 14:09             ` Bron Gondwana
2010-09-17 14:22               ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-17 23:01                 ` Bron Gondwana
2010-09-20  9:34   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-20 23:41     ` Default zone_reclaim_mode = 1 on NUMA kernel is bad forfile/email/web servers Rob Mueller
2010-09-21  9:04       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-21 14:14         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-22  3:44           ` Rob Mueller
2010-09-27  2:01         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-27 13:53           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 23:17             ` Robert Mueller
2010-09-28 12:35               ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-28 12:42                 ` Bron Gondwana
2010-09-28 12:49                   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-30  7:05             ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-04 12:45             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-04 13:07               ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2010-10-05  5:32                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-04 19:43               ` David Rientjes
2010-09-21  1:05   ` Default zone_reclaim_mode = 1 on NUMA kernel is bad for file/email/web servers KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-27  2:04     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-27  2:06       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-23 11:44   ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-30  8:38   ` Bron Gondwana

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