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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	steiner@sgi.com, holt@sgi.com, npiggin@suse.de,
	a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	kanojsarcar@yahoo.com, rdreier@cisco.com,
	swise@opengridcomputing.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	avi@qumranet.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	general@lists.openfabrics.org, hugh@veritas.com,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, aliguori@us.ibm.com, chrisw@redhat.com,
	marcelo@kvack.org, dada1@cosmosbay.com, paulmck@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:32:11 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0805071828110.3024@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0805071809170.14935@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>


On Wed, 7 May 2008, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 7 May 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > and you're now done. You have your "mm_lock()" (which still needs to be 
> > renamed - it should be a "mmu_notifier_lock()" or something like that), 
> > but you don't need the insane sorting. At most you apparently need a way 
> > to recognize duplicates (so that you don't deadlock on yourself), which 
> > looks like a simple bit-per-vma.
> 
> Andrea's mm_lock could have wider impact. It is the first effective 
> way that I have seen of temporarily holding off reclaim from an address 
> space. It sure is a brute force approach.

Well, I don't think the naming necessarily has to be about notifiers, but 
it should be at least a *bit* more scary than "mm_lock()", to make it 
clear that it's pretty dang expensive. 

Even without the vmalloc and sorting, if it would be used by "normal" 
things it would still be very expensive for some cases - running thngs 
like ElectricFence, for example, will easily generate thousands and 
thousands of vma's in a process. 

		Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-08  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-07 14:35 [PATCH 00 of 11] mmu notifier #v16 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:35   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 20:02   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 20:05   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 20:30     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 21:58       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:11         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:27           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:31             ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2008-05-07 22:39               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:37             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 02 of 11] get_task_mm Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 15:59   ` Robin Holt
2008-05-07 16:20     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 03 of 11] invalidate_page outside PT lock Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:39   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 17:57     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 04 of 11] free-pgtables Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:41   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 05 of 11] unmap vmas tlb flushing Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:46   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 06 of 11] rwsem contended Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 07 of 11] i_mmap_rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 20:56   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 21:26     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 21:36       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:22         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:31           ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 22:44             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:59               ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 23:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:39                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  0:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  0:52                       ` Robin Holt
2008-05-08  0:56                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  1:07                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  1:39                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  1:52                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  1:57                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  2:24                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  2:32                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:39                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  1:02                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  1:12                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  1:32                       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-05-08  2:56                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  3:10                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  3:41                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  4:14                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  5:20                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  5:27                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-08  5:30                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-08  5:49                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 15:03                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 16:11                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 22:01                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-09 18:37                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 18:55                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-09 19:04                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-08  1:26                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:28               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-07 23:45                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  1:34                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-13 12:14                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14  5:43                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-14  6:06                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 13:15                         ` Jack Steiner
2008-05-07 22:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:58             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:02               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:09               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  0:38         ` Robin Holt
2008-05-08  0:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-13 12:06           ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 15:32             ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14  4:11               ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 11:26                 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 15:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 16:22                     ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 16:56                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 17:57                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 18:27                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-17  1:38                         ` mm notifier: Notifications when pages are unmapped Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15  7:57                   ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Nick Piggin
2008-05-15 11:01                     ` Robin Holt
2008-05-15 11:12                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-15 17:33                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 23:52                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-16 11:23                         ` Robin Holt
2008-05-16 11:50                           ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20  5:31                             ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 10:01                               ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 10:50                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 11:05                                   ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 11:14                                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 11:26                                       ` Robin Holt
2008-05-07 22:42       ` Jack Steiner
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 09 of 11] mm_lock-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:36 ` [PATCH 10 of 11] export zap_page_range for XPMEM Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:36 ` [PATCH 11 of 11] mmap sems Andrea Arcangeli
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-02 15:05 [PATCH 00 of 11] mmu notifier #v15 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-02 15:05 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli

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