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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] fix SMP data race in pagetable setup vs walking
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:55:50 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0805131753150.3019@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080514003417.GA24516@wotan.suse.de>


On Wed, 14 May 2008, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
> Uh, I don't follow your logic. The "reference" Linux memory model
> requires it, so I don't see how you can justify saying it is wrong
> just because a *specific* architecture doesn't need it.

You're thinking about it the wrong way.

NO specific architecture requires it except for alpha, and alpha already 
has it.

Nobody else is *ever* likely to want it ever again.

In other words, it's not a "reference model". It's an "alpha hack". We do 
not want to copy it in code that doesn't need or want it.

And that's especially true when it's not needed at all, and adding it just 
makes a really simple macro much more complex and totally unreadable.

If it was about adding something to a function that was already a real 
function, it would be different.

If you coudl write it as a nice inline function, it would be different.

But when that alpha hack turns a regular (simple) #define into a thing of 
horror, the downside is much *much* bigger than any (non-existent) upside.

		Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-14  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-05 11:20 [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends fixlets Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 12:12 ` [patch 2/2] fix SMP data race in pagetable setup vs walking Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 14:35   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06  9:38     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 13:32       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-13  7:55         ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 13:26           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-05 15:32   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-05 16:37     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-05-06  9:51     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 14:53       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-06 19:11         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-14  4:27           ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13  8:01         ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 15:45           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14  0:34             ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14  0:55               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-05-14  1:18                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14  4:35                 ` [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends arch fixlets Nick Piggin
2008-05-14  4:37                   ` [patch 2/2] fix SMP data race in pagetable setup vs walking Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 13:26                   ` [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends arch fixlets Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-05 16:57   ` [patch 2/2] fix SMP data race in pagetable setup vs walking Hugh Dickins
2008-05-06  9:52     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06  7:08   ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-05-06  9:56     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 14:27 ` [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends fixlets Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06  9:01   ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 14:06     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06 15:29 ` David Howells
2008-05-06 19:09   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-13  8:05   ` Nick Piggin

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