From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
npiggin@suse.de,
"hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk" <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
avi@redhat.com,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/4] get_user_pages READ fault handling special cases
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:50:19 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0907070931340.3210@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090707165950.7a84145a.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>
> Now, get_user_pages(READ) can return ZERO_PAGE but it creates some trouble.
> This patch is a workaround for each callers.
> - mlock() ....ignore ZERO_PAGE if found. This happens only when mlock against
> read-only mapping finds zero pages.
> - futex() ....if ZERO PAGE is found....BUG ?(but possible...)
> - lookup_node() .... no good idea..this is the same behavior to 2.6.23 age.
Gaah. None of these special cases seem at all valid.
I _like_ ZERO_PAGE(), but I always liked it mainly with the whole
"PAGE_RESERVED" flag.
And I think that if we resurrect zero-page, then we should do it with the
modern equivalent of PAGE_RESERVED, namely the "pte_special()" bit.
Anybody who walks page tables had better already handle special PTE
entries (or we could trivially extend them - in case they currently just
look at the vm_flags and decide that the range can have no special pages).
So I'd suggest instead:
- always mark the zero page with PTE_SPECIAL. This avoids the constant
page count updates - that's what PTE_SPECIAL means, after all.
The page count updates was what killed ZERO_PAGE. It's wonderful for
cache behaviour _other_ than the ping-pong of having to modify the
"struct page".
- for architectures that don't have the PTE_SPECIAL bit in the page
tables, we don't do the magic zero page at all.
- for architectures that have virtual caches and cannot handle a single
zero page well (eg the mess we had with MIPS and muliple zero-pages),
also simply don't do it, at least not initially.
- for the rest, depend on pte_special().
- pass down the fault flags to "vm_normal_page()", and let one of the
bits in there say "I want the zero-page". That way "get_user_pages()"
can just treat the zero page as a normal page (it's read-only, of
course, but we check the page tables, so that's ok). We'd increment the
page count there, but nowhere else (we _need_ to increment the zero
page count there, since it will be decremented at free time, and we've
lost the page table entry that says that the "struct page *" is
special).
With something like the above, there really shouldn't be a lot of
special-case code. None of these games with mlock etc. Nothing should
_ever_ need to test "is_zero_page()", because the only thing that does so
is vm_normal_page() - and if that one returns the "struct page *", then
it's going to be considered a normal page, nothing special.
That's how the _original_ ZERO_PAGE worked. It had pretty much no special
case logic. It was basically treated as an IO page from an allocation
standpoint, thanks to the PG_Reserved bit, but other than that nobody
really cared.
Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-07 16:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-07 7:51 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] ZERO PAGE again v2 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 7:52 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] introduce pte_zero() KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 7:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] use ZERO_PAGE for READ fault in regular anonymous mapping KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 7:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] get_user_pages READ fault handling special cases KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-07-08 0:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-08 1:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-08 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-07 8:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] add get user pages nozero KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 8:47 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] ZERO PAGE again v2 Nick Piggin
2009-07-07 9:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-07 9:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 9:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-07 9:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 14:00 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-07 16:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-08 6:21 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-08 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-09 7:47 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-09 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-10 2:09 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-10 3:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-10 3:51 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-08 17:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-07-09 1:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10 11:18 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-07-10 13:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-07-10 14:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10 15:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-07-10 15:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10 17:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-07-13 6:46 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-13 7:24 ` Nick Piggin
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