From: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
To: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
Cc: Chengfeng Lin <chengfenglin@stu.xmu.edu.cn>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, "Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, regressions@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] mm/mprotect: shared-dirty base-page toggle slower since v6.17
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2026 15:11:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <amDOXEjIQCQdOfb9@pedro-suse.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03f91210-e0b7-43b9-9a95-755b986b3c40@arm.com>
On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 07:24:31PM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
>
>
> On 22/07/26 4:07 pm, Chengfeng Lin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry that my earlier message was difficult to follow.
> >
> > The previous exact parent/child test showed that cac1db8c3aad slowed this
> > workload by 39.77%. To answer your question directly: no. In a separate
> > matched v7.1.3 patch-on/patch-off test, Pedro's full v3 series was 6.20%
> > slower than the no-v3 controls, so it did not reduce the slowdown in this
> > workload.
> >
> > I also checked for an update. The latest public revision I found is still v3,
> > and it is already included in Linux v7.1.3.
> >
> > To isolate the series, I used the same v7.1.3 source for both kernels. The
> > no-v3 kernel replaces only mm/mprotect.c with the exact pre-series file at
> > 19999e479c2a. The full-v3 kernel is unmodified v7.1.3 and matches the series
> > tip at 89e613bc0b2d. The normalized configs and all other build conditions
> > were the same.
> >
> > I used a fresh boot for every point:
> >
> > point mean ns/page
> > no-v3 A 55.333
> > full v3 58.200
> > no-v3 B 54.267
> >
> > The no-v3 midpoint was 54.800 ns/page. Full v3 was 6.20% slower than that
> > midpoint. The two controls drifted by -1.93%. Dropping the first measured run
> > from every point left the v3 delta at +6.18%.
> >
> > This was the same narrow standalone workload: a 64 MiB shared anonymous
> > mapping, dirty 4 KiB pages, and repeated full-range read-only, restore, and
> > write-touch cycles. Each point had 3 warm-up processes and 15 measured
> > processes; each measured process ran 1,000 cycles. The benchmark was pinned to
> > one P-core with Turbo disabled and preempt=none.
> >
> > All 45 measured processes passed the returned-value checks and stayed on 4 KiB
> > pages with no THP. The protect and restore phases were each about 23 ns/page
> > with v3 and 21 ns/page without v3. The later write-touch phase was unchanged.
> >
> > So, for this specific microbenchmark on this machine, Pedro v3 did not reduce
> > the slowdown. It produced a small slowdown instead. I am not making a claim
> > about other mprotect patterns or application-level performance. My earlier
> > QEMU result that suggested a partial improvement should not be used.
>
> I don't see why Pedro's patches should cause a slowdown. The only diff I can think
> of is the if (likely(nr_ptes == 1)) check.
Agree. I don't really understand what this slowdown is about (nor have I had
a proper look, to be fair).
>
> But again, we have had these microbench regression discussions before. I think it
> is clear by now that vm_normal_folio() is bad on some systems. Best we can do
> here IMO is avoid that by doing something like
On my desktop the results were very clear: vm_normal_folio() didn't really
make a difference.
Perhaps we're looking at microarchitectural differences here. I dunno.
--
Pedro
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-22 14:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-24 17:28 [REGRESSION] mm/mprotect: shared-dirty base-page toggle slower since v6.17 Chengfeng Lin
2026-07-01 10:50 ` Chengfeng Lin
2026-07-21 12:39 ` Chengfeng Lin
2026-07-22 5:48 ` Dev Jain
2026-07-22 10:37 ` Chengfeng Lin
2026-07-22 13:54 ` Dev Jain
2026-07-22 14:11 ` Pedro Falcato [this message]
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