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From: Karl Mehltretter <kmehltretter@gmail.com>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>, Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	 Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	 David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
	 linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] slab: check for ZERO_SIZE_PTR by exact match
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2026 02:28:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <an-yHQe938PS-Opz@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202608111716.0FA9DB17@keescook>

On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 05:17:48PM +0100, Kees Cook wrote:
> > Compare explicitly against NULL and ZERO_SIZE_PTR. Store the argument
> > in an unsigned long temporary to support both pointer and integer
> > address arguments while evaluating it only once.
> 
> Can we move ZERO_SIZE_PTR to cover the ERR_PTR range too? See this issue:
> https://github.com/KSPP/linux/issues/93
> 
> > This also changes check_bogus_address() in hardened usercopy: nonzero
> > addresses below ZERO_SIZE_PTR no longer cause its null-address abort.
> 
> And then check_bogus_address would also catch ERR_PTR.
> 

Thanks, I did not know about the earlier discussion and the KSPP issue.

Using -4096 for ZERO_SIZE_PTR is tempting.

However I found a few conflicts, for example:
  - PowerPC KVM guest kernels map their magic page at exactly -4096. A
    kernel making this change would probably have to move it to -8192.
  - m68k DragonBall has a hardware register at exactly 0xfffff000.
  - OpenRISC could reach this address with an exact 1 GiB direct map.

Linus's original reason for choosing 16 was that it should fault
like NULL:
https://lore.kernel.org/r/alpine.LFD.0.98.0706011554300.3957@woody.linux-foundation.org

I would not include ERR_PTR range for ZERO_OR_NULL_PTR()
globally. krealloc() also uses it, where it would make an ERR_PTR()
behave like NULL and allocate new memory.

Maybe keep the exact check and add IS_ERR() separately
to kfree() and hardened usercopy.

Karl


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-15  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-11 14:12 [PATCH v2 0/3] slab: ZERO_SIZE_PTR alignment and exact matching Karl Mehltretter
2026-08-11 14:12 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] slab: align ZERO_SIZE_PTR to ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN Karl Mehltretter
2026-08-11 14:12 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] slab: check for ZERO_SIZE_PTR by exact match Karl Mehltretter
2026-08-12  0:17   ` Kees Cook
2026-08-15  0:28     ` Karl Mehltretter [this message]
2026-08-11 14:12 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] slab: test zero-size allocations in slub_kunit Karl Mehltretter

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