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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 12/15] mm/smap: report workingset folios as referenced
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2026 21:21:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <anE-nSqyXcG1g5zQ@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260804-mglru-fg-v1-12-4d8dad39dad6@tencent.com>

On Tue, Aug 04, 2026 at 03:47:08AM +0800, Kairui Song via B4 Relay wrote:
> @@ -944,6 +944,22 @@ static void smaps_page_accumulate(struct mem_size_stats *mss,
>  	}
>  }
>  
> +static bool smap_check_folio_referenced(struct folio *folio)
> +{
> +	if (lru_gen_enabled())
> +		return folio_is_referenced(folio);
> +	else
> +		return folio_is_referenced_by_bit(folio);
> +}
> +
> +static void smap_clear_folio_referenced(struct folio *folio)
> +{
> +	if (lru_gen_enabled())
> +		folio_set_lru_refs(folio, 0);
> +	else
> +		folio_clear_referenced_by_bit(folio);
> +}

I don't really understand this and the preceding 2 patches.

What is the benefit of a "shared" ref/workingset state implementation
when you then still have separate APIs for querying & modifying?

Switching some these callers from folio_test_workingset() to
folio_is_workingset()? But both functions continue to exist?

Why not make versions of folio_test_workingset(),
folio_test_referenced(), folio_clear_referenced() etc. that do the
arbitration (bit ops on classic, refs ops on mglru) and leave callers
that are only interested in boolean states, like here, alone?

folio_test_anon(), folio_test_lazyfree(), folio_test_swapcache() -
there are many examples where they don't just test a raw bit but
assess more complex, composed state.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-04  1:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-03 19:46 [PATCH RFC 00/15] mm/mglru: frequency guided promotion (MGLRU-FG) and flag cleanup Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:46 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] mm/memcontrol: make lru_zone_size atomic and simplify sanity check Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:46 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] mm/memcontrol: allow update of LRU statistic without holding LRU lock Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:46 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] mm/mglru: introduce and always use helpers for manipulating page flags Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] mm/mglru: make generation page counters atomic Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] mm/mglru: move max_seq read into walk_update_folio Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] mm/mglru: use explicit tier range in read_ctrl_pos() Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] mm/mglru: move refault workingset activation into lru_gen_refault Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] mm/memcg: add folio-based lruvec live helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] mm/mglru: frequency guided workingset promotion (MGLRU-FG) Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-04  3:07   ` Kairui Song
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] mm/mglru: make folio lru referenced times count a generic API Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] mm/mglru: replace folio workinset check and update with new helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] mm/smap: report workingset folios as referenced Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-04  1:21   ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2026-08-04  2:11     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] mm/huge_memory: mark file folio as accessed more accurately on split Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] mm/khugepaged: consider workingset folios as referenced Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] mm/madvise: convert to new lru refs API and better support for MGLRU Kairui Song via B4 Relay

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