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Nothing. > > If you slop the reward should be silence ideally. And certainly not anything you > slopped going to any kind of branch... :) > > The slopularity is upon is Gregory. Behold the desert of the real etc. > I understand the sentiment, but then we have to reduce this to practice. And unfortunately, I'm about 99% sure that identifying slop is rapidly going to approach undecidability. We're lucky it still emits em-dashes. Unless we plan on converting the list to semi-public (which feels the anti-thesis of Linux), i'm not sure how you get there from here. So the risk is - do you over-bury and make it invisible, knowing we'll miss legitimate bugs and fixes - or do you do something (anything) that helps you ignore it while still being inspectable and curated. And burning tokens to fight tokens is just blatantly a losing battle. ~Gregory