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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
To: Xueyuan Chen <xueyuan.chen@vivo.com>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,  Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	 Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	xueyuan.chen21@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: zsmalloc: make shrinker compaction budget-aware
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2026 21:12:52 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <anXJ-5_vO7-toSe1@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47ed45b5-de67-41aa-aa21-a3ba3479a7cc@vivo.com>

On (26/08/07 18:57), Xueyuan Chen wrote:
> Hi Sergey,
> 
> Here is some additional data:
> 
> I used the following definitions:
>   compactable ratio = freeable_pages / total_pages
>   memory reclaimed  = pages_freed * PAGE_SIZE
> 
> freeable_pages is the estimate before compaction, based on the same
> calculation as zs_shrinker_count(), while pages_freed is the actual
> number of backing pages released.
> 
> There were 264 callbacks in the trace:
>   callback elapsed time:
>     median:    5.77 ms
>     p95:      55.82 ms
>     maximum: 271.36 ms
> 
>   compactable ratio before compaction:
>     median:   0.32%
>     p95:      2.86%
>     maximum:  8.33%
> 
>   memory reclaimed per callback:
>     median:    3.80 MiB
>     p95:      30.45 MiB
>     maximum:  92.73 MiB
> 
> The longest callback took 271.36 ms. Its compactable ratio was 3.25%,
> and it released 7,650 pages, or about 29.88 MiB.
> 
> There was also a 241.91 ms callback (with 30 schedule-outs) with a
> compactable ratio of 0.44%. It released 1,019 pages, or about
> 3.98 MiB.
> 
> Based on this data, it seems better to remove the shrinker.
> 
> Would you prefer that I change v2 to remove the zsmalloc shrinker
> callbacks directly?

Let's bring in heavy artillery to this discussion, in addition to Andrew
and Minchan, adding Nhat, Yosry, Barry, Johannes, Brian (random order).

Folks, I'm bullish on removal of zsmalloc shrinker callbacks.
I don't think those buy us much apart from memcpy-s and lock
contention.  Systems that want to compact zsmalloc have a sysfs
knob (and API) to do so (based on zram mm_stat numbers).

Any thoughts?


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-07 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-06  8:27 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: zsmalloc: make shrinker compaction budget-aware xueyuan.chen
2026-08-06  8:27 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm: zsmalloc: add a page limit to pool compaction xueyuan.chen
2026-08-06  8:27 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm: zsmalloc: use the shrinker reclaim budget xueyuan.chen
2026-08-07  3:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: zsmalloc: make shrinker compaction budget-aware Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-08-07 10:57   ` Xueyuan Chen
2026-08-07 12:12     ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2026-08-07 16:25       ` Nhat Pham

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