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From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Hemanth Selam <hemanth.selam@gmail.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	 Yury Khrustalev <yury.khrustalev@arm.com>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	 "Liam R . Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	 Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] selftests/mm: remove the local PKEY_UNRESTRICTED fallback
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2026 15:30:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ao2mwLHeS0X1aa6q@gremlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260819074709.1345730-1-hemanth.selam@gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 19, 2026 at 01:17:09PM +0530, Hemanth Selam wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 02:36:00PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> > But it might be worth checking in this case to see whether the problem here
> > is in fact that we need PKEY_UNRESTRICTED defined over there?
> >
> > Hemanth - could you check please?
>
> Checked.  It is already defined over there:
>
>   tools/include/uapi/asm-generic/mman-common.h:88:#define PKEY_UNRESTRICTED	0x0
>
> and it does reach the mm selftests without "make headers", through
> TOOLS_INCLUDES.  The path is not obvious, so for the record:
>
>   pkey-helpers.h
>     -> <linux/mman.h>           tools/include/uapi/linux/mman.h
>       -> <asm/mman.h>           /usr/include/asm/mman.h
>                                 (tools/include/uapi/asm/mman.h does not exist)
>         -> <asm-generic/mman.h> tools/include/uapi/asm-generic/mman.h
>                                 (-isystem puts it ahead of the system one)
>           -> <asm-generic/mman-common-tools.h>
>             -> <asm-generic/mman-common.h>	PKEY_UNRESTRICTED
>
> I built the pkey tests with KHDR_INCLUDES pointing at an empty directory,
> that is, as if "make headers" had never run.  They build, and cpp -dD
> says:
>
>   defined in: tools/include/uapi/asm-generic/mman-common.h
>
> Pointing TOOLS_INCLUDES at an empty directory as well is what breaks it:
>
>   pkey-helpers.h:188:30: error: 'PKEY_UNRESTRICTED' undeclared
>
> So that is where the definition comes from, and dropping the local
> #ifndef does not depend on "make headers" being run.
>
> The one thing worth being aware of is that the redirection into
> tools/include/uapi only happens because the system <asm/mman.h> includes
> <asm-generic/mman.h>.
>
> I had a look at the history you pointed at, thanks, that was the part I
> had wrong.  If I read it right this is exactly the mechanism from commit
> e076eaca5906 ("selftests: break the dependency upon local header
> files"), which added TOOLS_INCLUDES to the mm selftests so they build
> without "make headers".  So for this particular macro the value comes
> from the in-tree snapshot rather than from whatever the build host has
> installed, which is why it does not vary per system here.
>
> That said, if you would still rather keep the #ifndef as a matter of
> course, I have no objection to dropping the patch, the guard costs
> nothing.  I mainly wanted to answer the question with something
> measured rather than assumed.

Thanks, all I care about is if they build so fine to remove then.

>
> > This is incorrect. We explicitly do not have this requirement in mm selftests,
> > and they're often built without having to do this step and tooling has been
> > provided _explicitly_ to allow for that, which is why this kind of thing exists
> > right now.
>
> You are right, the commit message was wrong on that point.  v2 drops
> that paragraph and describes the above instead.
>
> On the powerpc header David mentioned, I would rather leave
> tools/testing/selftests/powerpc/include/pkeys.h alone.  It is not the
> same construct: it is an unconditional
>
>   #undef PKEY_UNRESTRICTED
>   #define PKEY_UNRESTRICTED	0x0
>
> next to other powerpc specific overrides such as PKEY_DISABLE_EXECUTE
> 0x4, and that header only includes <sys/mman.h>, never <linux/mman.h>.
> A probe including just <sys/mman.h> does not find PKEY_UNRESTRICTED,
> with or without TOOLS_INCLUDES, so the definition there is load bearing
> and removing it would break the build.

Load-bearing :)) Where have I heard that phrasing before...

>
> Thanks,
> Hemanth

--
Cheers, Lorenzo


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-25 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-18 11:49 [PATCH] selftests/mm: remove the local PKEY_UNRESTRICTED fallback Hemanth Selam
2026-08-18 13:11 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 13:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 14:18     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 14:36       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-19  7:47         ` Hemanth Selam
2026-08-25 14:30           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
2026-08-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v2] " Hemanth Selam
2026-08-19 14:15   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-25 14:36     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-25 15:58       ` Hemanth Selam

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