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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 15/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Call arch make_shared callback for to-shared conversion
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2026 12:44:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ao9CKMXAX-hScRSa@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260826-gmem-inplace-conversion-v11-15-0a15d8a799aa@google.com>

On Wed, Aug 26, 2026, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> Omit support for calling the arch hook to make private, since SNP, the only
> implementer of the arch make-private hook today, would actually prefer
> making private only just before faulting memory into the NPTs.
> 
> Calling the make-private arch hook would require iterating both bindings
> and the filemap to find the intersection of bindings and allocated
> folios.

Why would KVM need to iterate over the bindings?  Only the RMP needs to be updated,
whether or not the RMP is currently reachable is irrelevant, no?

Subsequent calls to kvm_arch_gmem_make_private() from kvm_gmem_get_pfn() would be
superfluous, but that's already possible, e.g. if an NPT mappings is removed for
whatever reason.

> On top of that, SNP would need to figure out whether to actually
> make private based on whether the memory is about to be faulted, or
> whether it is a conversion.

This is a non-issue, no?  As above, sev_gmem_make_private() already bails early
if the page is already assigned in the RMP.

I don't care terribly about how SNP handles this, but I do want accurate reasoning
and justification so that if/when we revisit any of this in the future, we can make
informed decisions.  Because unless I'm missing something, this is an optimization
choice (eager vs. lazy to-private conversions), not a complexity tradeoff, and it's
not clear to me how we decided the lazy approach would provide better performance.

> Calling the make-shared arch hook and not the make-private arch hook does
> leak SNP-specific details into guest_memfd (as in, why only make-shared
> during conversions but not make-private?), but the additional complexity is
> not worth taking on until guest_memfd has a user actually requiring an arch
> make-private call.

...

> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_ARCH_GMEM_CONVERT
> +static void kvm_gmem_make_shared(struct inode *inode, pgoff_t start, pgoff_t end)
> +{
> +	struct folio_batch fbatch;
> +	pgoff_t next = start;
> +	int i;
> +
> +	folio_batch_init(&fbatch);
> +	while (filemap_get_folios(inode->i_mapping, &next, end - 1, &fbatch)) {
> +		for (i = 0; i < folio_batch_count(&fbatch); ++i) {
> +			struct folio *folio = fbatch.folios[i];
> +			pgoff_t start_index, end_index;
> +			kvm_pfn_t start_pfn;
> +			kvm_pfn_t nr_pages;
> +
> +			start_index = max(start, folio->index);
> +			end_index = min(end, folio_next_index(folio));
> +			/*
> +			 * end_index is either in folio or points to
> +			 * the first page of the next folio. Hence,
> +			 * all pages in range [start_index, end_index)
> +			 * are contiguous.
> +			 */
> +			start_pfn = folio_file_pfn(folio, start_index);
> +			nr_pages = end_index - start_index;
> +
> +			kvm_arch_gmem_make_shared(start_pfn, nr_pages);
> +		}
> +
> +		folio_batch_release(&fbatch);
> +		cond_resched();
> +	}
> +}
> +#else
> +static void kvm_gmem_make_shared(struct inode *inode, pgoff_t start, pgoff_t end) {}
> +#endif
> +
>  static int __kvm_gmem_set_attributes(struct inode *inode, pgoff_t start,
>  				     size_t nr_pages, uint64_t attrs,
>  				     pgoff_t *err_index)
> @@ -624,7 +661,12 @@ static int __kvm_gmem_set_attributes(struct inode *inode, pgoff_t start,
>  
>  	filter = to_private ? KVM_FILTER_SHARED : KVM_FILTER_PRIVATE;
>  	kvm_gmem_invalidate_start(inode, start, end, filter);
> +
> +	if (!to_private && kvm_arch_has_gmem_convert())
> +		kvm_gmem_make_shared(inode, start, end);
> +
>  	mas_store_prealloc(&mas, xa_mk_value(attrs));
> +
>  	kvm_gmem_invalidate_end(inode, start, end);

The real reason I responded...

Thinking about the Secure AVIC mess made me realize zapping NPTs for SNP VMs isn't
strictly necessary in this path.  The PFN isn't changing, just the attributes, and
that's (obviously) tracked in the RMP.  KVM doesn't need to zap SPTEs to induce a
fault, because the mismatched C-bit vs. RMP status will cause an #NPF(RMP), and
AFAICT kvm_mmu_page_fault() will do the right thing.  A misbehaving guest could
continue to access the shared data (assuming we stick with lazy conversions), but
that should be fine?  E.g. it's not really any different than implicit conversions.

In other words, couldn't we do this (as an on-top optimization)?  The only wrinkle
I can think of is that it could delay reconstituion of a hugepage, especially if
we opted for eager conversion (because the guest wouldn't hit #NPFs to trigger the
hugepage promotion).

diff --git arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
index 62f751952ad8..61f3e270ab61 100644
--- arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
+++ arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
@@ -1670,6 +1670,7 @@ static bool __kvm_rmap_zap_gfn_range(struct kvm *kvm,
 
 bool kvm_unmap_gfn_range(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_gfn_range *range)
 {
+       unsigned long shared_private =  KVM_FILTER_SHARED | KVM_FILTER_PRIVATE;
        bool flush = false;
 
        /*
@@ -1683,6 +1684,10 @@ bool kvm_unmap_gfn_range(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_gfn_range *range)
        lockdep_assert_once(kvm->mmu_invalidate_in_progress ||
                            lockdep_is_held(&kvm->slots_lock));
 
+       if (gmem_in_place_conversion && !kvm_has_mirrored_tdp(kvm) &&
+           ((range->attr_filter & shared_private) != shared_private))
+               return false;
+
        if (kvm_memslots_have_rmaps(kvm))
                flush = __kvm_rmap_zap_gfn_range(kvm, range->slot,
                                                 range->start, range->end,


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-26 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-26  9:17 [PATCH v11 00/46] guest_memfd: In-place conversion support Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:17 ` [PATCH v11 01/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Optimize away conversion overheads via dead-code elimination Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 02/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Use kvm_mem_is_private() when populating guest_memfd memory Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 03/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce per-gmem attributes, use to guard user mappings Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 04/46] KVM: Rename KVM_GENERIC_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES to KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 05/46] KVM: Enumerate support for PRIVATE memory iff kvm_arch_has_private_mem is defined Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 06/46] KVM: Rename memory attribute APIs to prepare for in-place gmem conversion Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 07/46] KVM: Rename kvm_mem_is_private() to kvm_is_private_gfn() Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 08/46] KVM: Provide generic interface for checking memory private/shared status Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 09/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Stub in ability to enable in-place shared<=>private conversion Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 10/46] KVM: Consolidate private memory and guest_memfd ifdeffery in kvm_host.h Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 11/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Invalidate both SHARED and PRIVATE mappings for in-place conversions Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 12/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Pass mapping type filter to invalidation helper Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 13/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Add base support for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 14/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Ensure pages are not in use before conversion Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 15/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Call arch make_shared callback for to-shared conversion Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26 19:44   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-08-26 22:17     ` Michael Roth
2026-08-26 22:33       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-26 23:47         ` Michael Roth
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 16/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Return early if range already has requested attributes Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 17/46] mm/gup: factor out LRU cache draining for folio into lru_cache_drain_for_folio() Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 18/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle lru_add fbatch refcounts during conversion safety check Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 19/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Zero page while getting pfn Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 20/46] KVM: SEV: Make 'uaddr' parameter optional for KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 21/46] KVM: TDX: Make source page optional for KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 22/46] KVM: Move KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES config definition to x86 Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 23/46] KVM: Let userspace disable per-VM mem attributes, enable per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 24/46] KVM: guest_memfd: Enable INIT_SHARED on guest_memfd for x86 Coco VMs Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 25/46] KVM: selftests: Create gmem fd before "regular" fd when adding memslot Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 26/46] KVM: selftests: Rename guest_memfd{,_offset} to gmem_{fd,offset} Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 27/46] KVM: selftests: Add support for mmap() on guest_memfd in core library Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 28/46] KVM: selftests: Add selftests global for guest memory attributes capability Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 29/46] KVM: selftests: Add helpers for calling ioctls on guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 30/46] KVM: selftests: Test basic single-page conversion flow Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 31/46] KVM: selftests: Test conversion flow when INIT_SHARED Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 32/46] KVM: selftests: Test conversion precision in guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 33/46] KVM: selftests: Test conversion before allocation Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 34/46] KVM: selftests: Convert with allocated folios in different layouts Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 35/46] KVM: selftests: Test that truncation does not change shared/private status Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 36/46] KVM: selftests: Test that shared/private status is consistent across processes Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 37/46] KVM: selftests: Add helpers to pin pages with CONFIG_GUP_TEST Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 38/46] KVM: selftests: Test conversion with elevated page refcount Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 39/46] KVM: selftests: Reset shared memory after hole-punching Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 40/46] KVM: selftests: Provide function to look up guest_memfd details from gpa Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 41/46] KVM: selftests: Provide common function to set memory attributes Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 42/46] KVM: selftests: Make TEST_EXPECT_SIGBUS thread-safe Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 43/46] KVM: selftests: Support guest_memfd attributes in private_mem_conversions_test Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 44/46] KVM: selftests: Set up page size and alignment independently for guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 45/46] KVM: selftests: Test in-place conversions in private_mem_conversions_test Ackerley Tng
2026-08-26  9:18 ` [PATCH v11 46/46] KVM: selftests: Update private memory exits test to work with per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng

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