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Howlett" , Mike Rapoport , Suren Baghdasaryan , Michal Hocko , Jonathan Corbet , Shuah Khan , Randy Dunlap , Brendan Jackman , Johannes Weiner , Zi Yan , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] mm/page_owner: Add PID/TGID/COMM and cgroup filtering Message-ID: References: <20260903041819.1776630-1-zhen.ni@easystack.cn> <5d4c247c-b8ea-4d3f-b2b9-d442d372fd03@kernel.org> <6744bcdb-3456-4ba2-95a0-a58c354bfbfa@easystack.cn> <048d7470-a813-4252-a4f0-0ec29694f639@easystack.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <048d7470-a813-4252-a4f0-0ec29694f639@easystack.cn> X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam04 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: BA726A0007 X-Stat-Signature: nmh79e8run88rabujfzi83kayz64dwwa X-HE-Tag: 1788851059-901620 X-HE-Meta: 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 xnL/f4B+ zd2hT+A41w7gGB/5PEjtiVAwQvJZXGUg564EPNADtaNGrRJiWQS3kafEP6Sodch/IjFvYpNVIlUzqeW/iRNf/ijw+GeqjWfyX8Kx+/oAhFtpeR7tRplHsKaftpDwJK+/vXym997HJULR1OwTedNpxOSF2SuTUbsuJkRJ6zzuawn+g5Dn2PDPalziOWAH86u6UAxkwR/TV2sJKRzSOXLR36+OxSvDptAFSPr1Wtcbv1IAyUa1PGOy/KDSvph2IyZdyxmOvtJ40NowjqySKGnPPgXR8koa6kPX6O12z6JuTBJkfuY+6jQfGpBwJi4pjvJjcroqALAixMJDFOw+JtfNzBIPpSxHQ2laE1bV/ Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 02:40:10PM +0800, zhen.ni wrote: > > > 在 2026/9/8 14:24, Weijie Yuan 写道: > > From an outsider.. > > > > On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 10:41:23AM +0800, zhen.ni wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry but your whole reply reads like a LLM slop. It took a lot of > > > > mental effor to actually try and engage with it. > > > > > > > > > > This reply was written by me, and its viewpoints are not simply copied > > > directly from an LLM. The LLM only assists with the wording. > > > > So that's probably the reason. Your previous replies was indeed very > > much like the output of an LLM. Even if the idea is your own, after > > being "polished" by LLM, it's hard to read. I know English is not our > > first language, and it's not that easy to speak like a native speaker. > > But may I ask you did you read it before sending them out? I really > > found this bunch of overly formal content a little painful to read. > > > > So I suspect the LLM may have taken too much liberty in polishing your > > text, to the point that your replies no longer read like something a > > person would naturally write. > > > > The "Summary and Plan" in your reply in v1, both in its formatting and > > wording, looks quite similar to LLM-generated text to me. So I can > > understand why Lorenzo asked whether you had used an LLM. Come on, we > > all know what LLM writing looks like. > > > > That said, I do not know exactly how you used the LLM on your original > > text, so please forgive me if I have this wrong. > > > > Thanks. > > > I really can't distinguish the LLM flavor that clearly in English. Yes, sometimes I can not as well. But I guess the native ones can. So.. ;-) > I'm sorry for causing some trouble. That's fine. No need to say sorry. I know and understand that we non-native speakers would rather not make mistakes over these little language detail issues. But over-polishing can end up having the opposite effect. Keeping some of your natural writing style may actually be what the community prefers, especially these AI days. > My normal reply process is to first describe my ideas, then have the > LLM check for logic and grammar issues, and do a round of polishing. I > check the final draft once more to see if it has deviated from my > ideas, and make corresponding revisions. Sigh, so it is hard to know where to draw the line. Write more and learn more about "human-like" writing, perhaps. :) Thanks!