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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: kasong@tencent.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	 Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Baoquan He <baoquan.he@linux.dev>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	 Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	 "Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	 Ridong Chen <ridong.chen@linux.dev>,
	Lian Wang <lianux.mm@gmail.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	 Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/6] mm/memcontrol: make lru_zone_size atomic and simplify sanity check
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2026 21:38:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <apZVe8UHZ1CNo4r1@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260831-mglru-flags-cleanup-v4-1-2d15dde0d7ee@tencent.com>

On Mon, Aug 31, 2026 at 02:43:31AM +0800, Kairui Song via B4 Relay wrote:
> From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> 
> commit ca707239e8a7 ("mm: update_lru_size warn and reset bad lru_size")
> introduced a sanity check to catch memcg counter underflow, which was
> more of a workaround for another bug: lru_zone_size is unsigned, so
> underflow wraps it around and returns an enormously large number, then
> the memcg shrinker loops almost forever as the calculated number of
> folios to shrink is huge. That commit also checked if a zero value
> matches the empty LRU list, so we have to hold the LRU lock, and
> handle the positive and negative deltas separately.
> 
> But later commit b4536f0c829c ("mm, memcg: fix the active list aging
> for lowmem requests when memcg is enabled") already removed the LRU
> emptiness check, so handling the deltas separately is no longer
> needed. And if we just turn it into an atomic long, underflow isn't a
> big issue either,

Why atomic long and not just long?

> and can be checked at the reader side, which is
> called much less frequently than the updater.
> 
> So let's turn the counter into an atomic long and check at the reader
> side instead, which has a smaller overhead. The underflow correction
> is removed: a massive leak of the LRU size counter would indicate
> that something else has gone very wrong, and one should fix that
> leaking site instead. Besides, the updater-side sanity check is
> unlikely to catch the leaking site anyway: if a folio was removed
> without updating the counter while other folios remain on the LRU,
> the WARN only triggers much later, from a likely innocent callsite.

Do you have any data to support your claim that updater-side sanity check is not
that useful? Also can you explain the motivation to move the check from the
update side to reader side?



  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-01  4:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-30 18:43 [PATCH v4 0/6] mm/mglru: clean up folio counters and flag usage Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-30 18:43 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] mm/memcontrol: make lru_zone_size atomic and simplify sanity check Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-09-01  4:38   ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2026-09-01  5:20     ` Kairui Song
2026-09-01 17:37       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-01 18:11         ` Kairui Song
2026-09-01 18:34           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-08-30 18:43 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] mm/mglru: introduce helpers for manipulating gen and refs flags Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-09-01  2:05   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-01 10:32   ` Barry Song
2026-08-30 18:43 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] mm/migrate: copy all referenced state via folio_migrate_lru_refs Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-30 18:43 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] mm/mglru: move max_seq read into walk_update_folio Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-30 18:43 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] mm/mglru: use explicit tier range in read_ctrl_pos() Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-30 18:43 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] mm/mglru: fix potential generation folio number leak Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-09-01 10:56   ` Barry Song
2026-09-01 11:13     ` Kairui Song
2026-09-01 11:33       ` Barry Song

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