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From: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
To: Eli Billauer <eli.billauer@gmail.com>
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	 David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	 Brad Warrum <bwarrum@linux.ibm.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	 Michal Simek <michal.simek@amd.com>,
	Ritu Agarwal <rituagar@linux.ibm.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] char: xillybus: replace __get_free_pages() with kmalloc()
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2026 13:25:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <apgTKYKSBzbdDJZa@pedro-suse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9a3d6a08-339c-3315-cc81-46907d0836ad@outbound.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 02, 2026 at 01:41:54PM +0200, Eli Billauer wrote:
> On 01/09/2026 19:46, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > > * Does vmalloc() guarantee that non-pageable physical RAM is allocated when
> > > it returns?
> > It's not pageable in the sense of demand paging. Some architectures lazily
> > synchronize vmalloc page tables and this can cause page faults that will
> > take care of the page table synchronization.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for this clarification.
> 
> This sounds like a showstopper to me. Immediately after the allocation of
> these buffers, data from the USB device can arrive at 400 MB/s. If the data
> flow is throttled as a result of handling page faults while trying to write

Note that these page faults are supposed to be uncommon in nature. They will
only happen in architectures where the top-level page tables are not
pre-populated, and when they weren't populated before. On a 64-bit architecture
that would be something like every 512 GiB of address space :)

> the data to these buffers, this could lead to an overflow in the USB
> device's own RAM buffers. This is because the USB device is an FPGA, where
> RAM is an expensive resource.
> 
> So using vmalloc() may result in a malfunction in the data transport where
> the __get_free_pages() would have been successful. This outweighs the
> benefit of a somewhat higher probability of success in allocating very large
> buffers, and surely the improved aesthetics of the kernel code.
> 
> Regards,
>    Eli
> 

-- 
Pedro


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-02 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-30  7:47 [PATCH 0/4] char/misc: replace page allocator calls with k[mz]alloc() Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)
2026-08-30  7:47 ` [PATCH 1/4] char: xilinx_hwicap: " Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)
2026-08-30  7:47 ` [PATCH 2/4] char: xillybus: replace __get_free_pages() with kmalloc() Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)
2026-08-31 10:13   ` Eli Billauer
2026-08-31 11:32     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-01  8:42       ` Eli Billauer
2026-09-01 17:24         ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-02 11:40           ` Eli Billauer
2026-09-03  9:15             ` Mike Rapoport
2026-08-31 11:39     ` David Laight
2026-09-01  7:59       ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-01  8:37         ` David Laight
2026-09-01  8:44         ` Eli Billauer
2026-09-01 17:46           ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-02 11:41             ` Eli Billauer
2026-09-02 12:09               ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-03 12:30                 ` Eli Billauer
2026-09-03 14:28                   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-03 14:56                     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-02 12:25               ` Pedro Falcato [this message]
2026-09-02 12:26               ` David Laight
2026-08-30  7:48 ` [PATCH 3/4] misc: ibmvmc: replace get_zeroed_page() with kzalloc() Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)
2026-08-30  7:48 ` [PATCH 4/4] platform: goldfish: pipe: replace __get_free_page() with kmalloc() Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)

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