From: Baoquan He <baoquan.he@linux.dev>
To: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
Cc: Baoquan He <hebaoquan@kylinos.cn>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
kasong@tencent.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
axelrasmussen@google.com, yuanchu@google.com, weixugc@google.com,
david@kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, mhiramat@kernel.org,
hannes@cmpxchg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] mm/mglru: skip cold PUD subtrees during aging
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2026 12:38:25 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <appLQR3JAFOZERJt@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4z6SKTUeV2=OH67QPm4+JE_Lvw0rRsd3=H5F8EX=swBYg@mail.gmail.com>
On 09/04/26 at 11:41am, Barry Song wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2026 at 11:22 AM Baoquan He <baoquan.he@linux.dev> wrote:
> >
> > On 09/02/26 at 07:53am, Barry Song wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2026 at 2:38 PM Baoquan He <hebaoquan@kylinos.cn> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The aging walks into every PUD and runs the PMD-level Bloom filter
> > > > on each PMD. Add a coarser PUD-level filter (pud_filters) one level
> > > > up:
> > > > - walk_pmd_range() now reports whether it found any young leaf entries,
> > > > - walk_pud_range() records that in the PUD filter, and
> > > > - on subsequent generations, skips the whole 1GB subtree when the filter
> > > > says it had none last generation.
> > > >
> > > > The double-buffered filter flips with each new iteration, so newly hot or
> > > > migrated-in pages are re-checked promptly rather than suppressed
> > > > indefinitely. force_scan walks bypass the PUD test, so manual aging and
> > > > newly added mm's always rescan and re-populate the filter.
> > > >
> > > > To keep hot regions marked, also report the covering PUD from the rmap
> > > > feedback path (lru_gen_look_around()), so regions whose hotness is only
> > > > observed by eviction will be re-scanned.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Baoquan He <hebaoquan@kylinos.cn>
> > > > ---
> > > > mm/vmscan.c | 52 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> > > > 1 file changed, 47 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > > [...]
> > > > @@ -4397,8 +4431,14 @@ bool lru_gen_look_around(struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw, unsigned int nr)
> > > > lazy_mmu_mode_disable();
> > > >
> > > > /* feedback from rmap walkers to page table walkers */
> > > > - if (mm_state && suitable_to_scan(i, young))
> > > > + if (mm_state && suitable_to_scan(i, young)) {
> > > > + /* the PUD entry covering the young PTEs scanned above */
> > > > + pud_t *pud_p = pud_offset(p4d_offset(pgd_offset(vma->vm_mm, pvmw->address),
> > > > + pvmw->address), pvmw->address);
> > > > +
> > > > update_pmd_bloom_filter(mm_state, max_seq, pvmw->pmd);
> > > > + update_pud_bloom_filter(mm_state, max_seq, pud_p);
> > > > + }
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Baoquan,
> > >
> > > I am really not against this idea, and I believe it can benefit
> > > NUMA cases.
> > >
> > > That said, I might be being overly cautious, but I'm a bit concerned
> > > that this re-walk of the page tables could slightly hurt machines that
> > > don't benefit from the PUD filter at all. For example, Android devices
> > > typically have relatively small amounts of memory, so a PUD covers a
> > > really large range of their address space, which is unlikely to be
> > > useful on an 8 GB Android device. Also, `lru_gen_look_around()` is a
> > > really hot path. On Android, we've observed that it can consume a
> > > significant amount of CPU.
> > >
> > > Is there any possibility of implementing this in a low-cost way?
> >
> > I made a draft patch, could you help check and test if it's performing
> > better on Andriod device?
> >
>
> Hi Baoquan,
>
> Actually, it is quite difficult to run the latest kernel, or even a
> patch against the latest kernel, on an Android device. However, I can
> run it on my x86 PC, for example, by setting `mem=4096M` or `mem=8192M`
> in the bootargs to simulate a low-end phone.
>
> I may run kernel-build on it and collect the perf data. Once I have
> the data, I'll get back to you.
>
> On the other hand, you could also investigate this in parallel by
> emulating a low-end device. :-)
Sure, I will test and investigate from my side. Thank you very much for
the effort on testing and investigation.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-04 4:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-01 6:37 [PATCH v2 0/4] skip empty PUD subtrees during aging with a PUD-level Bloom filter Baoquan He
2026-09-01 6:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm/mglru: add MM_WALK_EMPTY stats and tracepoint Baoquan He
2026-09-01 7:11 ` Barry Song
2026-09-01 8:18 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-01 23:37 ` Barry Song
2026-09-01 6:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm/mglru: add PUD-level Bloom filter state and generic helpers Baoquan He
2026-10-16 18:39 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-01 6:37 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm/mglru: skip cold PUD subtrees during aging Baoquan He
2026-09-01 23:53 ` Barry Song
2026-09-02 2:29 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-02 3:22 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-04 3:41 ` Barry Song
2026-09-04 4:38 ` Baoquan He [this message]
2026-10-16 19:53 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-01 6:37 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm/mglru: count PUD subtrees skipped by the PUD-level filter Baoquan He
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