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Message-ID: References: <5fdb3777-95a2-48f9-bb38-aa4ba3c96a81@kernel.org> <5ca344de-bc34-4a9b-ab85-f553811a1d9c@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Rspam-User: X-Stat-Signature: rde5wktua9q6t69hosm15qbdajg5cfzc X-Rspamd-Server: rspam03 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B65C7C0006 X-HE-Tag: 1790088200-118390 X-HE-Meta: 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 1s/D9Q8p 8s+9IPiOxw4yD1YOqbytLJoqyj6MMH9fmga/AwEFbQalP/6RZE8NBes7kveKARLAUNtcoCfxQnH3YOOouwWVILeZuj5FUHNLMoftrVAb96ZDzYgg3NBifNZZbeizSBMbcAGsWPv0Zj7dzqSeSsOioBmBwSpTfpKhz589HOARygRF5Ma6skEQtYPhvMvLXAv2MWmcPpeK5oJhpWqjFHt/aeBUsO41TrXrTLhh0kpJYpQD+zNIDjhn3f+vsIz+Z4Qz5e/x2rJ3njvPs1QUTSV6BMe2hoAwCeMGFicLbpOtMKf1jt9CteBXIEEeaBDgO4WaOx59pEOze58ITvE4wnSTRL6FqzctnugN0/SJyF1+HWlSZ0dRhk0pBlO+2/OCIb7LN7IDx8G7NT0jhQUI7AM2N+UUxgDLUCIShcprIjr6JVbJeaw9V3g+p3abua1EF9Ey7HB5GmWapBPeeIh348kvDLuUq9Q== Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 03:38:38AM -1000, Chris Li wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 8:56 AM Nhat Pham wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2026 at 11:50 PM Chris Li wrote: > > > No that time slot is too late for Asia developers. I don't think we > > > should use that time slot for swap alignment. > > > > > > We should find a time slot more friendly to Asia. > > > > Any time slot would have that kind of problem. We're spread out across > > the globe. > > > > Let's just use a standardized time slot we have for MM alignment sessions. > > There are more swap maintainers in Asia than in the US + Europe, at > least based on the maintainer file. Please be more inclusive. If the > alignment is done without key stakeholders, it miss the point. > > Sigh, we can't even align on a time slot. > > In that case, let's keep discussing on the mailing list. At least it > is accessible to every one. People can speak for themselves and suggest other time slots. You do not speak for anyone but yourself here. At this point this is derailing the conversation.