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Tue, 22 Sep 2026 08:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 11:07:16 -0400 From: Johannes Weiner To: Chris Li Cc: Shakeel Butt , Nhat Pham , Baoquan He , Kairui Song , "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" , Michal Hocko , Roman Gushchin , Yosry Ahmed , Muchun Song , Kemeng Shi , Barry Song , YoungJun Park , Chengming Zhou , "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" , "Liam R. 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Message-ID: References: <5ca344de-bc34-4a9b-ab85-f553811a1d9c@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam05 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 528EA40002 X-Stat-Signature: bc87t4ipzbc9z9u7gnqi1s39do1fboq5 X-Rspam-User: X-HE-Tag: 1790090039-386609 X-HE-Meta: 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 UbQInOEY 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 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 04:56:48AM -1000, Chris Li wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 4:43 AM Shakeel Butt wrote: > > > > People can speak for themselves and suggest other time slots. You do not speak > > for anyone but yourself here. At this point this is derailing the conversation. > > > > I am expressing my opinion, freedom of speech. As you can see in the > previous discussion, Baoquan wasn't able to join that time slot. He is > a major shareholder in XSwap. I worry that alignment vswap vs xswap > without Baoquan is ineffective. That is my opinion. Actually, he said he is not sure if he can make it, and before Nhat could respond to that soft push you drew a hard line without actually proposing a workable alternative that made Nhat give up instead. So my free speech opinion is the same as Shakeel's: you're speaking for others and thereby derailing efforts to align on something. We all want Baoquan in the room.