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Howlett" , "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" , Mike Rapoport , Suren =?utf-8?B?QmFnaGRhc2FyeWFu77+8?= , Qi Zheng , Axel Rasmussen , Yuanchu Xie , Wei Xu , Rik van Riel , Gregory Price , Wenchao Hao , Jonathan Corbet , Hugh Dickins , Baolin Wang , Tejun Heo , Michal =?iso-8859-1?Q?Koutn=FD?= , Shuah Khan , Kunwu Chan , Meta kernel team , Linux Memory Management List , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, "open list:CONTROL GROUP - MEMORY RESOURCE CONTROLLER (MEMCG)" , Andrew Morton , Joshua Hahn Subject: Re: Path forward for Virtualized Swap? Message-ID: References: <5ca344de-bc34-4a9b-ab85-f553811a1d9c@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Stat-Signature: uq8hhd4g5g5t6wzikmpzzgjdcogxrnkz X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D6B9A4000C X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam01 X-HE-Tag: 1790090935-932256 X-HE-Meta: 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 cPqASloV QLv6gvD2To/7E+3A5mYxwyekIvAZUjKTiYaVdN/AzSwNGVcfPs39CiXLBA5lf1IxBcTYiwZbfXPHPY9azkCfFGT6EvkMoKLTB2Lj4euClgoh6wCwqiAksVNjMRgd1kN2AT9INBnCNpCYOQVZArPHDZzH7exwm69m+8/qr5S4RAF2kIcajj1nBgCDHlRpfsMa/YA2fbBnq3JqBwHt4p/QX1aBNOsibiugRDl4ZLnZjrBO3c1Cq3FGUx0Mo0V+5k5TqbhHI7uxRLYqRX48KcO/5gtX40ylfdrHZaQEvvOhbXxOd5sH8MFzeG0pupA3M7Ty0QVLlpCRPBGWEC7d9h9fzjoH3hKFTwhQEy5FgLVPr1qfrsh+XaU8WAimDphAvMWdtTmj/3EJdMos4iLqrTTWnIS0EBkyJBYng54Pg0hRHfSjUxutTFYgD8XRrf1QdsLXCp4nrPD3wxjoJoPM= Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 09/22/26 at 04:56am, Chris Li wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 4:43 AM Shakeel Butt wrote: > > > > People can speak for themselves and suggest other time slots. You do not speak > > for anyone but yourself here. At this point this is derailing the conversation. > > > > I am expressing my opinion, freedom of speech. As you can see in the > previous discussion, Baoquan wasn't able to join that time slot. He is > a major shareholder in XSwap. I worry that alignment vswap vs xswap > without Baoquan is ineffective. That is my opinion. Thanks Chris. I know you are trying to involve more people to join and talk, and I appreciate it. About the meeting time. I am in UTC+8. If the meeting is before 23:00 my time, I can join. If it is later than that, it is too late for me, and I can only discuss in the mailing list. But I am fine if other people meet without me. Please do not block the meeting because of me. For the discussion itself, I know it is a little hot these days. But I still think it is useful. The disagreements are becoming more and more clear, not vague like before. I can feel the consensus is getting closer. So I hope we can continue in the meeting or in the mailing list. Thanks Baoquan