Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] BPF-based per-cgroup NUMA balancing mode selection

[Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 08:04:35PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> The Problem
> ===========
> 
> In our large fleet of Kubernetes-managed servers, NUMA balancing has
> been historically disabled globally on each server. With the increasing
> deployment of multi-socket AMD EPYC servers, cross-NUMA access has
> become a critical performance issue, which made us reconsider.
>
> Enabling NUMA balancing globally is still not acceptable: it increases
> the overall system overhead and can introduce latency spikes for
> latency-sensitive workloads. What we need is to choose per workload
> whether NUMA balancing runs at all, and which mode it runs in. A
> latency-sensitive service may want the scheduler's NUMA statistics
> without tiering's promotion machinery, while a batch service wants its
> PMEM-resident memory promoted when hot without paying for
> scheduler-driven migration. No single global switch serves both.

Have you tested with recent fixes?  NUMA balancing has been broken for a
few years now (starvation issues causing VMAs to never be scanned,
east-west filters causing south->north promotions to be skipped, shmem
being entirely exempt, others).

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20260629163337.1264881-1-hannes@cmpxchg.org/
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20260930112206.205083-1-gourry@gourry.net/

I also concur with Tejun that ops seems like overkill for this feature,
this seems like something that can already be managed.

For example, why not add a new numa balancing mode bit that says
"enabled but only for explicitly opted in tasks" and then ignore the
global default mempolicy, e.g.:

  if (numab_mode & NUMA_BALANCING_OPT_IN &&
      mpol != default &&
      mpol.flags & MPOL_F_NUMA_BALANCING)
      /* do balancing */

~Gregory