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From: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 kernel-team@meta.com, "Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	 Nico Pache <nico.pache@linux.dev>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	 Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	 Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	 Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/13] mm/collapse: open-code collapse_single_pmd() in its two callers
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2026 11:55:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <as9cHpbmDm2FzJai@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3bd88620-c245-4fab-abb7-9091d9a1b649@kernel.org>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2026 at 11:33:46AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 10/13/26 23:38, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 22:25:21 +0200 "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> >>>
> >>> I see the appeal of the single entry point for the collapse engine. I do.
> >>>
> >>> But it costs us on both the locking picture and the scan rate. That
> >>> does not work for me.
> >>
> >> So this is in mm-unstable and I want at least the first 9 patches to go to
> >> mm-stable rather sooner than later.
> >>
> >> As raised in person, I don't like the open-coding here; it just results in weird
> >> API. I wonder whether we can come up with a better interface, while keeping the
> >> locking as per your requirement cheap (scan performance).
> >>
> >> While we figure that out, does it make sense to send out revised patch 1..9 to
> >> move them to mm-stable while we figure out the remainder of the new API?
> > 
> > I've suggested to Kyril that we park this series until the next -rc
> > cycle.
> > 
> > But I can bring it back - we have a couple of weeks, three if we get a
> > 3-week merge window.
> 
> I'd say we move forward with the uncontroversial parts, and keep discussing the
> controversial bits. Either these make it still in this cycle or we'll simply
> have them for the next cycle.

Agreed.

Andrew, could you pick up 1-9 and leave 10-13 out for now?

I want to experiment with a few ideas for the rest and will get back.

-- 
  Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-14 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-28 10:06 [PATCH v4 00/13] mm/collapse: separate a collapse from its callers Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] mm/khugepaged: drop redundant mm_struct pin in madvise_collapse() Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] mm/khugepaged: count collapses where khugepaged makes them Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] mm/khugepaged: rename mthp_present_ptes bitmap to eligible_ptes Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] mm/collapse: add collapse.h for the collapse interface Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] mm/collapse: state what a collapse may do in the policy Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 19:26   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-29  1:32   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-29  8:12   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] mm/collapse: drop the collapse_possible() wrapper Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] mm/collapse: name the per-table scan reset for what it resets Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] mm/collapse: call collapse_file() from collapse_single_pmd() Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-29  1:41   ` Zi Yan
2026-10-02 11:04     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-01  8:08   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-02 11:08     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] mm/collapse: separate scanning a PTE table from collapsing it Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-29  1:52   ` Zi Yan
2026-10-01  8:34   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-02 11:16     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] mm/collapse: open-code collapse_single_pmd() in its two callers Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-01  9:37   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-02 14:27     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-13 20:25       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-13 21:38         ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-14  9:33           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-14 10:55             ` Kiryl Shutsemau [this message]
2026-10-14 12:37               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-14 15:13                 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] mm/collapse: work out the orders a VMA allows once per VMA Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] mm/collapse: declare the collapse interface in collapse.h Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-29  2:02   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] mm/collapse: implement MADV_COLLAPSE in madvise.c Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-29  2:03   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-28 21:59 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] mm/collapse: separate a collapse from its callers Andrew Morton

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