From: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>
To: "Kanchana P. Sridhar" <kanchanapsridhar2026@gmail.com>
Cc: hannes@cmpxchg.org, nphamcs@gmail.com, chengming.zhou@linux.dev,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, davem@davemloft.net,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
rientjes@google.com, willy@infradead.org,
senozhatsky@chromium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] Batched zswap_store() framework with compression batching.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2026 23:59:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <au5l3KEjG_mri-br@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261106072412.7909-1-kanchanapsridhar2026@gmail.com>
On Thu, Nov 05, 2026 at 11:24:04PM -0800, Kanchana P. Sridhar wrote:
> =============================================================================
> usemem PMD THP BPFTRACE
> =============================================================================
> Baseline zswap zswap Change Change
> mm-unstable store compress with with
> 10-25-2026 batching batching compress compress
> (patch 6-7) (patch 8) batching batching
> (ns) %
> =============================================================================
> zswap_store_order0_folio (ns):
> =============================================================================
> p50 39,631 37,538 37,765 -1,866 -4.71%
> p95 53,088 49,690 49,349 -3,739 -7.04%
> p99 65,065 63,529 57,404 -7,661 -11.77%
> =============================================================================
> zswap_store_higher_order_folio (ns):
> =============================================================================
> p50 21,460,366 21,201,411 20,383,233 -1,077,133 -5.02%
> p95 25,975,341 27,558,253 25,045,350 -929,991 -3.58%
> p99 29,538,493 61,926,648 27,184,835 -2,353,658 -7.97%
> =============================================================================
> zswap_single_compress_per_page (ns):
> =============================================================================
> p50 37,545 39,320 37,218 -327 -0.87%
> p95 51,549 66,503 51,481 -68 -0.13%
> p99 89,866 134,854 87,091 -2,775 -3.09%
> =============================================================================
> zswap_batch_compress_per_page (ns):
> =============================================================================
> p50 40,493 2,948 7.85%
> p95 56,944 5,395 10.47%
> p99 76,242 -13,624 -15.16%
> =============================================================================
As with previous versions, I cannot reproduce these results. I tried
with a QEMU VM on a Cascade Lake host. I saw marginal improvements with
patch 6 and no significant gain with patches 7-8.
I noticed that you omitted high-level metrics (e.g. throughput), I
didn't see significant changes in throughput, and I also ran a kernel
build and saw a small regression in some cases (probably with order-0
folios) and no significant improvement otherwise. Even if latency for
some functions does improve slightly, it doesn't matter if it doesn't
show up on higher-level metrics.
It could be the difference in setups, or the overhead of bpftrace hooks
for zswap_compress() might affect measured zswap_store() latencies, as
you will have fewer zswap_compress() calls with patch 8.
As advised previously, I would trim down patch 6 to the bare minimum
(without all the scaffolding and prep work for patches 7-8), and send it
separately (with patch 5), and we can check if it's worth adding, I am
still concerned it might be adding overhead for order-0 to be honest.
I am questioning the benefit of batching here without HW batching, so
far the results are more concerning than encouraging. I already spent
too much time trying to reproduce the performance gains. Also, sending
new versions without resolving discussions on previous ones is not
really productive.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-06 23:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-06 7:24 [PATCH v3 0/8] Batched zswap_store() framework with compression batching Kanchana P. Sridhar
2026-11-06 7:24 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] crypto: acomp - Define a unit_size in struct acomp_req to enable batching. mm: zswap: Set the unit size for zswap to PAGE_SIZE Kanchana P. Sridhar
2026-11-06 7:24 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] crypto: acomp - Add bit to indicate segmentation support Kanchana P. Sridhar
2026-11-06 7:24 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] crypto: acomp - Add trivial segmentation wrapper Kanchana P. Sridhar
2026-11-07 7:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-06 7:24 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] crypto: acomp - Add API to get a compression algorithm's batch-size Kanchana P. Sridhar
2026-11-07 7:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-06 7:24 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] mm: zswap: Store the folio's node id in the zswap_entry Kanchana P. Sridhar
2026-11-07 7:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-06 7:24 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] mm: zswap: Store large folios in batches Kanchana P. Sridhar
2026-11-06 7:24 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] mm: zswap: Refactor and optimize zswap_store_pages() batch operations Kanchana P. Sridhar
2026-11-07 7:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-06 7:24 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] mm: zswap: Batched zswap_compress() for storing large folios in batches Kanchana P. Sridhar
2026-11-07 7:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-06 23:59 ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2026-11-07 1:28 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] Batched zswap_store() framework with compression batching Kanchana P. Sridhar
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