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From: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuni1840@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  cgroups@vger.kernel.org, yosry@kernel.org,
	joannelkoong@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] memcg: Batch mod_memcg_state() for MEMCG_SOCK.
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2026 01:35:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <auKcNvAizn-B92xB@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <auKYs_ucslI-tdar@linux.dev>

On Wed, 28 Oct 2026 17:52:32 -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 05:41:04PM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 06:50:12PM +0000, Kuniyuki Iwashima wrote:
> > > On our production fleet, we saw mem_cgroup_sk_charge() spent over
> > > 3x the cycles of try_charge_memcg() although the former should be
> > > a thin wrapper of the latter.
> > > 
> > > Looking at perf during tcp_rr, most of the cycles were spent in
> > > mod_memcg_state(MEMCG_SOCK), which incurred two heavy memory stalls
> > > due to cache line misses. (see patch 4)
> > > 
> > > Also, tcp_rr w/ 20000 flows throughput often degrades by ~50% on
> > > many core machine. (see patch 5)
> > > 
> > > This series adds nr_sock[] to struct memcg_stock_pcp to batch
> > > mod_memcg_state() for MEMCG_SOCK and move heavy operations to
> > > out of local_lock(&memcg_stock.lock).
> > > 
> > > With this series, tcp_rr w/ 10000 flows achieves 31% more
> > > throughput with lower latency on machine w/ AMD EPYC 7B12 64-Core
> > > Processor (Zen 2 Rome, 2 sockets, 256 vCPU)
> > > 
> > >   tcp_rr (10000 flows, 128 threads, 60s, average of 3 runs):
> > > 
> > >   Metric                     |       Baseline |        Patched |    Diff
> > >   ---------------------------+----------------+----------------+--------
> > >   Throughput (RPS)           |     20,884,499 |     27,466,490 | +31.52%
> > >   Latency Mean (us)          |         478.46 |         363.71 | -23.98%
> > >   Latency p50 (us)           |         453.96 |         356.68 | -21.43%
> > >   Latency p90 (us)           |         669.00 |         479.56 | -28.32%
> > >   Latency p99 (us)           |         969.38 |         617.80 | -36.27%
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Changes:
> > >   v2:
> > >     * Rebased on mm.git/mm-new
> > >     * Add patch 5 for flaky throughput issue
> > >     * Patch 4:
> > >       * Benchmark again after rebase and update numbers
> > >       * Check in_nmi() in __refill_stock()
> > > 
> > >   v1: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20261016052811.3085635-1-kuniyu@google.com/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Kuniyuki Iwashima (6):
> > >   memcg: Remove unnecessary READ_ONCE() under memcg_stock.lock.
> > >   memcg: Reduce nesting in consume_stock() and refill_stock().
> > >   memcg: Annotate slow paths in consume_stock() and refill_stock().
> > >   memcg: Batch mod_memcg_state() for MEMCG_SOCK.
> > >   memcg: Uncharge pages outside memcg_stock.lock in __refill_stock().
> > >   selftests: cgroup: Deflake test_memcg_sock() in test_memcontrol.c.
> > 
> > Decouple the 4th patch (batch MEMCG_STOCK) from the remaining and send the
> > remaining patches separately and upfront.

Sure.


> > 
> > For the 4th patch, I would prefer we first try to move the network sockets
> > from memcg to objcg path.

sk_forward_alloc is already batched per page, and I think
migrating to objcg would just add an indirect layer and some
costs for css_tryget() / css_put(), and still inlining
__consume_stock() or batching in memcg_stock would be crucial.


> > Then I would prefer we optimize the stats update for
> > all stats instead of special casing for MEMCG_STOCK.
> > 
> 
> MEMCG_SOCK instead of MEMCG_STOCK

I guess you mean optimising MEMCG_SOCK along with MEMCG_KMEM (or
mod_memcg_state() / memcg_rstat_updated() in general).

I can give it a try, though some stats already have specialised
batching (e.g. NR_SLAB_RECLAIMABLE_B in obj_stock and folio stats
in uncharge_batch()).


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-29  1:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-28 18:50 [PATCH v2 0/6] memcg: Batch mod_memcg_state() for MEMCG_SOCK Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-28 18:50 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] memcg: Remove unnecessary READ_ONCE() under memcg_stock.lock Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-29  0:48   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-29  1:44     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-28 18:50 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] memcg: Reduce nesting in consume_stock() and refill_stock() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-29  0:50   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-28 18:50 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] memcg: Annotate slow paths " Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-29  0:55   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-29  1:49     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-28 18:50 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] memcg: Batch mod_memcg_state() for MEMCG_SOCK Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-28 18:50 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] memcg: Uncharge pages outside memcg_stock.lock in __refill_stock() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-28 18:50 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] selftests: cgroup: Deflake test_memcg_sock() in test_memcontrol.c Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-29  0:41 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] memcg: Batch mod_memcg_state() for MEMCG_SOCK Shakeel Butt
2026-10-29  0:52   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-29  1:35     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima [this message]
2026-10-29  2:32       ` Kuniyuki Iwashima

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