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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>
Cc: Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Kaitao Cheng <chengkaitao@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/zswap: fix double decrement of the LRU node count on writeback
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2026 11:58:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aujBMrk-nFaVtPsB@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO9r8zPuDtn1S0g8rDnXNfSdZ6uuH1geXALDN5-X_SZpM_W+wg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2026 at 08:10:54AM -0700, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 9:23 PM Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > 在 2026/10/29 05:10, Johannes Weiner 写道:
> > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 12:22:43PM -0700, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 4:36 AM Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Kaitao Cheng <chengkaitao@kylinos.cn>
> > >>>
> > >>> Successful writeback calls zswap_entry_free(), which removes the entry
> > >>> from the LRU and decrements both the sublist and node item counts.
> > >>> shrink_memcg_cb() then returns LRU_REMOVED_RETRY, causing the LRU walker
> > >>> to decrement the node count again.
> > >>
> > >> I wonder if we have a valid use case for adding LRU_REMOVED_COUNTED or
> > >> LRU_DELETED instead to simply avoid the decrement.
> > >
> > > It bugs me that it's the walker, not the callback, that adjusts the
> > > count. That composes poorly with the normal list manipulation API.
> > >
> > > How about pushing the accounting into the isolation callback, which
> > > can then simply use __list_lru_del()?
> > >
> > > The tradeoff is that more things need to be passed into the isolation
> > > callback, but that seems reasonable. It does make the change noisy,
> > > however, and we might want something like Kaitao's change as a
> > > backportable fix first regardless.
> >
> > I tried three approaches.
> >
> > The first was "pushing the accounting into the isolation callback", as
> > Johannes Weiner suggested. However, as Johannes's example below also shows,
> > this would require extensive changes across multiple subsystems. I doubted
> > that such a broad change would be accepted, so I dropped this approach.
> >
> > The second was to add a new flag to enum lru_status, as Yosry Ahmed suggested,
> > to handle cases like zswap where the callback has already decremented the
> > count. However, the incorrect lru->node[nid].nr_items value in zswap is only
> > an accounting issue: I could not find any code that reads this counter for
> > zswap. Changing a generic interface to fix an accounting error with no
> > apparent functional impact did not seem worthwhile.
> >
> > The third approach is the one implemented in this patch. It keeps the changes
> > within zswap and fixes the accounting issue, so I think it is appropriate.
> 
> I honestly think it's a problem with the list_lru API, as Johannes
> said, walkers compose poorly with the API. So I prefer we either take
> Johannes's suggestion or add LRU_DELETED, unless there's strong
> objection to both ideas.
> 
> FWIW, we don't need a minimal fix for backports, I don't think this
> needs to be backported at all. As Kaitao said, I don't think the wrong
> list_lru count is being used anywhere for zswap.

Good point.

Ok I will send a proper patch and we can discuss it from there.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-02 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-28 11:36 [PATCH] mm/zswap: fix double decrement of the LRU node count on writeback Kaitao Cheng
2026-10-28 18:47 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-29  4:15   ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-10-29 17:11     ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-28 19:22 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-10-28 21:10   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-10-28 21:17     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-10-29  4:23     ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-10-29 15:10       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-11-02 16:58         ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2026-11-03  1:28           ` Kaitao Cheng

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