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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Auld <matthew.auld@intel.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Matthew Brost" <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	"Mika Penttilä" <mpenttil@redhat.com>,
	"Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/hmm: skip NUMA balancing on protnone faults
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2026 19:27:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b32fb02a-68b4-4db9-83dd-254147dbf215@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261112-numa-v1-1-ad9cbca8f49a@intel.com>

On 11/13/26 17:25, Matthew Auld wrote:
> When automatic NUMA balancing marks a PTE or PMD as protnone
> (PAGE_NONE), hmm_pte_need_fault() requests a fault to restore access
> permissions, including _PAGE_RW when write access is needed.
> 
> Calling handle_mm_fault() from hmm_do_fault() currently triggers NUMA
> balancing in do_numa_page() and do_huge_pmd_numa_page(). When
> hmm_range_fault() runs from a device driver or kworker context (such as
> a GPU SVM or userptr rebind worker), folios get migrated toward the CPU
> node executing the remote fault.
> 
> Also, each folio migration invokes try_to_migrate_one() ->
> mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start(), which invalidates the
> caller's mmu_interval_notifier while holding mmap_lock. That causes
> hmm_range_fault() to abort with -EBUSY after every 2 MiB PMD and exhaust
> its retry timeout on large buffers, which has been observed with large
> imported Xe userptr buffers.
> 
> Add FAULT_FLAG_NO_NUMA and set it in hmm_do_fault() so protnone entries
> restore PTE/PMD permissions in-place without performing NUMA balancing,
> matching GUP's default !FOLL_HONOR_NUMA_FAULT behaviour.

Ehm, that's not how it works.

GUP will not trigger a "special" fault and will try not triggering a fault and
not restore permissions.

It will try continuing, leaving the protnone pte as it is.

See gup_can_follow_protnone().

For read-only access that should always work.

For write-access we always trigger an ordinary fault and do NUMA migration etc.


So FAULT_FLAG_NO_NUMA is doing something completely different and I don't agree
with it.


-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-13 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-13 16:25 [PATCH] mm/hmm: skip NUMA balancing on protnone faults Matthew Auld
2026-11-13 18:27 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-11-13 20:34   ` Thomas Hellström
2026-11-13 20:43     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-13 20:53       ` Gregory Price (Meta)
2026-11-13 20:56       ` Thomas Hellström
2026-11-13 21:19         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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